Hi Miguel,
No, the event is not yet closed. In fact, there's renewed interest after my previous email :-)

So to all: If the event will be on, it will be in the week of 16-20 June since that has most people confirmed until now. I will remove the other options.
Don't hesitate to still sign up quickly.

Cheers,
Jeroen

On Feb 13, 2008, at 11:43 AM, Miguel Montesinos wrote:

I agree with "there are tons of companies which are *exploiting* the GFOSS world itself, without giving anything or very little in return"

But I disagree with

There are also other companies that strongly believe that an OS
developer should ask for less money than any other non OS
developers, or no money at all, because "he does that for the
community".

Maybe people not working with OS may think that, but I think that people with some experience with OS thinks the opposite way. You need to have high-skilled abilities to understand core products in order to being able to adapt them, and that implies >= money than just using closed APIs.

Jeroen, is the event definitely closed? Two collegues from Prodevelop wanted to assist, but they haven´t signed in the wiki.

Miguel


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From my limited experience I can say that the number of GFOSS
developers is not small, not at all; the problem is that GFOSS
developers usually are quiet because they spend all the time
they have coding GFOSS software hence talking about what they
do is often considered a waste time (I am not supporting this
statement but that's what I have heard often..). I guess that,
to some extent, this is true for *any* software developer...

IMHO, the limiting factor of the GFOSS is that there are tons
of companies which are *exploiting* the GFOSS world itself,
without giving anything or very little in return (IMHO saying
"we use GFOSS software so we support it" is not the best form
of support, but then again, it's a personal opinion). There
are also other companies that strongly believe that an OS
developer should ask for less money than any other non OS
developers, or no money at all, because "he does that for the
community".

I think that the ongoing discussion on Service Provider
Prioritization should try to address these issues somehow.

Simone.


On Feb 12, 2008 6:31 PM, Paolo Cavallini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Simone Giannecchini ha scritto:
Could you please explain what you mean to a "poor" OS developer?

My feeling is that the number of available developers is small, and
cannot be easily raised by reasonable amounts of money (ok, with 12
MEUR that's different...). I think there's an "availability
pit": you
can find some productive developers willing to work for free/limited
additional resources/based on their own resources, you can also find
(many?) productive developers if you have lots of money, but in the
middle there is a gap, so transition is not smooth.
It would be nice to model all this in a more formal way (I'm a
behavioural ecologist, after all...), but now these are just
thoughts,
less than hypotheses.
All the best.

pc
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