FYI I talked with Alan yesterday about setting up a PSC for UbuntuGIS to increase this project's bus number.

Let's see what OSGeo4W does, and UbuntuGIS will likely adopt a similar approach.

I agree with those who wrote that we should aim to share as much as possible between the various distros, for instance we should aim to reuse/share the getting started docs produced by OSGeo-Live.

That being said I am not convinced that a single PSC overseeing all binary distros could be very efficient. OSGeo4W, UbuntuGIS, OSGeo-Live, etc, all have some commonalities, but also some big differences in the end product due to the nature of the platform that they target. Separate PSCs/teams focused on each platform seem more natural to me, even if some devs end up participating on multiple teams, but I'd be happy to be proven wrong of course.

Daniel


On 13-09-25 9:43 AM, Frank Warmerdam wrote:
Folks,

I have initiated an RFC for a project management committee for
OSGeo4W.  I'd encourage everyone interested in participating to joint
the osgeo4w-dev mailing list and to continue detailed discussion
there.

  http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/osgeo4w-dev

I think this list (osgeo-discuss) is a great place to discuss linkages
between different packaging efforts.

Best regards,
Frank


On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 2:06 AM, Jo Cook <joc...@astuntechnology.com> wrote:
The newest version of Portable GIS doesn't require quite so many admin
privileges, but I've also slimmed it down dramatically so it fits on a
smaller USB stick, so it contains a lot less software (no gvsig, no mysql
etc). It is used extensively for training courses in the UK, without too
many problems, and the new version should be better again as I have a
windows 8 VM to test on at last.

I'd like to bring Portable GIS in line with OSGeo4W and OSGeo Live- I've
spoken to both Alex and Cameron about this in the past- but I have some work
to do before that's possible- namely around documenting exactly which files
I change, and also the build process. It's all in a local mercurial
repository at the moment, but I'd really like to get it online. To be
honest, my big concern is that I don't always have time to focus on things
outside of my core work (maybe that will change post FOSS4G) and I can't
guarantee being able to pitch in at release time, or even respond to issues
in a timely manner. That's the main reason why I've kept it as a little pet
project- so I'm not letting anyone else down!

Sorry, didn't mean to hijack this discussion!

I think it makes sense to come up with an over-arching
project/committee/whatever that covers both OSGeo4W and OSGeo-Live, and
maybe PortableGIS at some point, rather than separate projects. It's always
better to share work rather than replicate it. Does anyone have any
objections to that idea? Personally, I'd then sketch out the workflows for
each, and figure out what make-up of committee would be required to oversee
that and go through incubation.

Jo


On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 2:04 AM, Alex Mandel <tech_...@wildintellect.com>
wrote:

On 09/24/2013 12:50 AM, Johan Van de Wauw wrote:
On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 2:08 AM, Angelos Tzotsos <gcpp.kal...@gmail.com>
wrote:


Hi Daniel,

I am in favor of both OSGeoLive and OSGeo4W going through a few weeks
incubation process.

Best,
Angelos

My own impression is that if we want to reach out to non-geek GIS
users the ideal way would be a system like portable GIS with the great
documentation of the live dvd, ie run and test the programs without
needing to be admin or having to install different programs.

I've researched this problem, talked with Jo (Current author of
PortableGIS http://www.archaeogeek.com/portable-gis.html)

There is almost no way to make this work without Admin priveleges on a
windows machine. Some individual apps can be made to work by extensively
modifying how they look for libs but many require things like a jvm to
run on top of, or a mix of system an local libs (e.g. Visual C++ is
required for many OSGeo4W apps and requires an install, that's actually
about the only part that has to be installed vs just in the OSGeo4w
folder).

This is actually why I settled on helping create OSGeo Live bootable
products and virtual machines. Of course this isn't perfect either as
figuring out how to boot a disk or usb seems beyond some users, and the
virtual machine still hits needing admin to install virtualization
software.

I also agree there's no reason many of the documentation efforts can't
be shared.

Thanks,
Alex
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