Thanks for letting us/me know about this plan Claude, it is really wonderful that you are planning a 10-year FOSS4G reunion event in Lausanne. I encourage all communities that are thinking of hosting 2016 to begin preparing their bids, and we will make sure to get the 2016 bid out shortly.

Talk soon! :)

-jeff



On 2014-09-14 9:02 AM, Claude Philipona wrote:
Hi Bart,

So IMHO organising it this way is not sustainable in the long run, past
organisers will not come back for a second round. It simply has gotten
too big to organise it this way.

This is maybe a bit of a quick answer.
As I told several people this week, we would be ready to organize a
second edition in Lausanne in 2016 to celebrate the 10th anniversary
of 2006 edition. Most of the previous involved organizations would be
happy to start again.

We would have the chance to use the brand new Swiss Tech Convention
Center, a high tech very modular facility, that can accommodate
conference up to 3000 attendess. Check the the video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqRy1Mxm27s
Swiss Tech Convention Center: http://www.tstcc.ch/en/index.php

Also, I don't think foss4g as grown that much. In Lausanne there were
570 pre-registered attendees + 80 that registered on site. Actually
what as grown is more the fees than the number of attendees.

Early Bird Workshop Registration (per half day): 2014:$100 / 2006:~$50
Early Bird Conference Registration 2014: $650 / 2006:~$250

Regular Workshop Registration (per half day): 2014: $150 / 2006:~$75
Regular Conference Registration: 2014: $750 / 2006:~$300

And Switzerland is not known as the cheapest country in the world...

I'm not saying that 2014 prices are too expensive, don't understand me
wrong. I'm just saying that over the years, several tasks have been
subcontracted by the local committee, which is possible with higher
fees, so I would say that the risk of "organizer burnout" has reduced,
not increased over the years.

And finally, thank you very much to all organizers, volunteers,.... of
FOSS4G 2014 PDX, it was a wonderful and successful edition. I really
enjoyed it.

Claude

On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 1:07 AM, Bart van den Eijnden <[email protected]> wrote:

Barend,

I’m talking about the “burn-out" signals that have been given recently by the 
current LOC (mostly because they have to re-invent the wheel every year and do a lot 
more than can be expected from them).

So IMHO organising it this way is not sustainable in the long run, past 
organisers will not come back for a second round. It simply has gotten too big 
to organise it this way.

There have been many related threads on the conference committee about this 
recently.

Sorry if my brief summary does not reflect all of those discussions.

Best regards,
Bart

On 14 Sep 2014, at 09:10, <[email protected]> <[email protected]> wrote:

What actually do you perceive to be the "problem with FOSS4G organising"?

I see it being a rather succesful, pretty large conference for the last
two years, bringing in a substantial amount of income to OSGEO. One might
perceive it as being "not the same as it used to be", but that is because
size DOES matter, and once such a thing grows over a certain size (I guess
around 700+ participants or so), you just cant have the "informal cosy
event" that used to be...

Yours,
Barend

--
Barend Köbben
Senior Lecturer ­ ITC-University of Twente
PO Box 217, 7500 AE Enschede (Netherlands)
@barendkobben





On 13-09-2014 23:51, "Bart van den Eijnden" <[email protected]> wrote:

Okay then I have 2 follow-up questions for you and/or Jeff:

1) do you acknowledge we have a problem with FOSS4G organising?

2) what other solutions to this problem do you see and why are they
better than co-organising with Eclipse/LocationTech?

Bart

Sent from my iPhone

On 14 sep. 2014, at 03:25, Venkatesh Raghavan
<[email protected]> wrote:

Dear All,

On 2014/09/14 0:11, Jeff McKenna wrote:
Responding to your comment, we now work closely with several
foundations (ISPRS, ICA, GLTN, and soon GSDI, are examples that I have
met with recently personally).

There does seem to be something different about the way LocationTech
is handing this, seems somewhat 'rushed' or 'forced', and I am not sure
why this pressure.  Maybe we can slow things down a bit, take the hand
off the throttle, sign an MoU, maybe have booths at each other's
events...similar to how OSGeo works already with these other
foundations.

I fully agree with views expressed by Jeff.
I look forward growing collaborations with
OSGeo and other international organizations
in a systematic and orderly manner.

Best

Venka

We can talk about this shortly.

-jeff



On 2014-09-13 7:51 AM, Andrew Ross wrote:
Dear Jeff, Everyone,

I'll drop in to help as well. I may be a little late as I promised my
children a video chat. I apologize as I'd like to be there and help.

For what it's worth, regarding the tag line agenda item, OSGeo is far
from the only open source community. Unaffiliated projects in Github
can
claim that for example. It might be better to aim for something a bit
more distinct.

See you soon,

Andrew

On September 12, 2014 7:28:08 PM PDT, Jeff McKenna
<[email protected]> wrote:

   For the record Arnulf forgot that the Board meeting starts at 8am
at the
   same location, discussing of course the exact topics that he
mentioned
   (http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Board_Meeting_2014-09-13).  But please
don't
   let me hinder your energy, definitely tackle the areas that need
love
   (reviving the marketting committee, picking your favorite project
in
   incubation and give some nudges...lots to do!)

   Thanks, see you early at the sprint.

   PS. the Board meeting, and any Board meeting, is open to anyone and
   everyone.

   -jeff





   On 2014-09-12 9:25 AM, Seven wrote:

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       Folks,
       if anybody indicates interest in hacking OSGeo at the code
sprint in
       Portland tomorrow please answer.

       In past years we have brain stormed around Marketing,
Sponsorship,
       Education, Data (specifically how OSGeo can support the Open
Data
       model) and so on. It is a aunique opportunity to evolve OSGeo
as an
       organization and I would be happy to contribute to anything you
       might
       want to achieve for within and around OSGeo as an organization.

       This can also include how (or rather if at all) OSGeo manages
       FOSS4G.
       In my experience the day directly after the event is the best
       time to
       actually do this, impressions are still fresh and lots of
ideas have
       popped up. If we do not invest some time into realizing them
we are
       not going to get anywhere. So if you think OSGeo needs a push
in a
       certain direction, join. There will be representatives from the
       board
       of directors, the president (I guess you are there Jeff,
right?) and
       other folks in key roles. It is probably the only time in the
year
       when you will get so many bright OSGeo folks in one place.

       Here is a link to drop your ideas. Its a Wiki, just go hack it
       as you
       like:
       http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/OSGeo_Hack_2014

       Cheers,
       Arnulf
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