Thanks for the comments so far. I've refined the Draft CoC to try and
capture suggestions:
/We are regularly debating and refining ideas. We don't always agree.
When we disagree it is important that we treat each other with respect
as people. Note that we have a multi-cultural, multi-lingual community
and some of us are non-native speakers./[1]
Johan Van de Wauw, has also recommended considering the Debian Code of
Conduct [2], which has some good text, and I've added the Geek Feminism
Anti Harassment Policy (referenced from the Debian CoC).
With so many variants on the CoC/Diversity Statement, it would be great
if a international standard could be created, such as done for Open
Source Licenses.
[1] http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Diversity#Draft_OSGeo_Code_of_Conduct
[2] http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Diversity#Debian_Code_of_Conduct
[3]
http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Diversity#Geek_Feminism_Template_Anti_Harassment_Policy
On 31/03/2015 5:40 pm, Maria Antonia Brovelli wrote:
Yes, I agree. Diversity also refers to language. We have to start
reason on that as a richness and not as a barrier. I like to have this
item in the CoC.
Thanks.
Best.
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*Inviato:* martedì 31 marzo 2015 08.33
*A:* Andrea Aime; Cameron Shorter
*Cc:* OSGeo Discussions
*Oggetto:* Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Discussion on statement : avoiding
slang. Was: Drafting a Diversity statement for the foundation (call
for input)
Hi,
My experience within OSGeo was positive so far. At FOSS4G, sometimes
people forget, that half of the crowd speaks English only
occasionally, which can lead to misunderstandings.
Anyway: I would like to point out, that it is not only matter of
writing, but also talking (at foss4gs, sprints, ...) In public but
also in private, what can be even harder than writing (you can not
take your time to figure out the best way how to express, what you need).
And yes, having something like that in CoC would be nice.
J
On Sun, Mar 29, 2015, 22:00 Andrea Aime <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
On Sun, Mar 29, 2015 at 9:40 PM, Cameron Shorter
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Thanks all for the feedback.
So my question is:
1. Should our Code of Conduct/Diversity statement mention that
we have a multilingual community?
I believe it's still a good idea.
2. What should we recommend that all, and especially native
speakers do to make our community welcoming to non-native
speakers?
I'd suggest, just a reminder that the level of written English can
vary a lot, ranging from cases where the lack of fluency is
evident, to cases where the sentence seems just too direct/rude,
so generally speaking, it's a good idea to try and be patient
and understanding.
Sometimes I wish there was a guide of typical
expectations/orientations varying culture by culture, to try
and understand better where people are coming from and put what
they say in context (this example
might be wrong or just a silly generalizations, but just to give
you an idea, I've heard
Japanese normally won't say no in a conversation, you have to
figure it out, and other cultures surely
have their "surprising" traits as well).
Cheers
Andrea
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