I do not feel like I can bring anything useful to this discussion, but I want to express my gratitude that embracing diversity is on the agenda. This alone is a sign for me that everybody is welcome in this community.
Thanks! On Apr 3, 2015 1:06 PM, "Cameron Shorter" <cameron.shor...@gmail.com> wrote: > I've been reading a lot of CoC statements over the last few days, and can > see how there has been a continual refinement with each new version over > time. > > 2010: Geek Feminism Anti Harassment Policy, http://geekfeminism.wikia.com/ > wiki/Conference_anti-harassment_policy > > 2012: JSConf Code of Conduct, http://jsconf.com/codeofconduct.html > > 2012: O'Reilly Code of Conduct, http://www.oreilly.com/ > conferences/code-of-conduct.html > > April 2014: Debian Code of Conduct, https://www.debian.org/code_of_conduct > > Dec 2014: Apache CoC, https://www.apache.org/foundation/policies/conduct. > html > > I like the Apache CoC, which is well written, and refines and extends the > best of prior CoCs. > > My thoughts are now moving toward adopting a CoC based on this Apache CoC. > > On 3/04/2015 5:38 pm, Eli Adam wrote: > >> With so many variants on the CoC/Diversity Statement, it would be great >>> if a >>> international standard could be created, such as done for Open Source >>> Licenses. >>> >> I think that there are a few CoC consolidation efforts like that >> currently, here is one [4] and another [5] that reference the first. >> I can't find all the links right now but recall them from the past. >> There was some OSM work to make one specific to mailing lists [6]. >> Here are a handful of additional CoCs too [7], [8], [9], [10]. >> >> CoC is inherently different than licenses. Licenses have >> compatibility issues and there are strong forces which promote >> well-known compatible licenses. Various companies have lawyers review >> licenses for compatibility too. There is no concept of compatibility >> in CoC, nor are diverse legal resources dedicated to it. So CoC is a >> realm (unlike licenses) where everyone can have their just slightly >> different CoC without causing incompatibility. Despite the >> variability, all strive to promote a safe, productive, functioning >> community for all. >> >> Eli >> >> >> [4] http://citizencodeofconduct.org/ >> [5] http://www.rust-lang.org/conduct.html >> [6] https://github.com/osmlab/codes-of-conduct/blob/master/ >> mailing_lists/code_of_conduct.md >> [7] https://github.com/codeforamerica/codeofconduct >> [8] https://github.com/twitter/code-of-conduct >> [9] https://github.com/python/pycon-code-of-conduct >> [10] https://github.com/selenamarie/conference_policies (list of >> others, mostly ~2012) >> >> >> >> >> [1] http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Diversity#Draft_OSGeo_Code_of_Conduct >>> [2] http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Diversity#Debian_Code_of_Conduct >>> [3] >>> http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Diversity#Geek_Feminism_ >>> Template_Anti_Harassment_Policy >>> >>> >>> On 31/03/2015 5:40 pm, Maria Antonia Brovelli wrote: >>> >>> Yes, I agree. Diversity also refers to language. We have to start reason >>> on >>> that as a richness and not as a barrier. I like to have this item in the >>> CoC. >>> >>> Thanks. >>> >>> Best. >>> >>> Maria >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------- >>> Prof. Maria Antonia Brovelli >>> Vice Rector for Como Campus and GIS Professor >>> Politecnico di Milano >>> >>> FOSS4G Europe - Don't miss it! >>> http://europe.foss4g.org/2015/Home >>> >>> http://2015.foss4g.org/programme/keynote-speech/ >>> >>> >>> >>> ISPRS WG IV/5 "Web and Cloud Based Geospatial Services and Applications"; >>> OSGeo; ICA-OSGeo-ISPRS Advisory Board; NASA WorldWind Europa Challenge; >>> SIFET >>> >>> >>> >>> Via Natta, 12/14 - 22100 COMO (ITALY) >>> >>> Tel. +39-031-3327336 - Mob. +39-328-0023867 - fax. +39-031-3327321 >>> >>> e-mail1: maria.brove...@polimi.it >>> >>> e-mail2: prorettr...@como.polimi.it >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ________________________________ >>> Da: discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org <discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org> >>> per >>> conto di Jachym Cepicky <jachym.cepi...@gmail.com> >>> Inviato: martedì 31 marzo 2015 08.33 >>> A: Andrea Aime; Cameron Shorter >>> Cc: OSGeo Discussions >>> Oggetto: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Discussion on statement : avoiding slang. >>> Was: >>> Drafting a Diversity statement for the foundation (call for input) >>> >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> My experience within OSGeo was positive so far. At FOSS4G, sometimes >>> people >>> forget, that half of the crowd speaks English only occasionally, which >>> can >>> lead to misunderstandings. >>> >>> Anyway: I would like to point out, that it is not only matter of writing, >>> but also talking (at foss4gs, sprints, ...) In public but also in >>> private, >>> what can be even harder than writing (you can not take your time to >>> figure >>> out the best way how to express, what you need). >>> >>> And yes, having something like that in CoC would be nice. >>> >>> >>> J >>> >>> >>> On Sun, Mar 29, 2015, 22:00 Andrea Aime <andrea.a...@geo-solutions.it> >>> wrote: >>> >>> On Sun, Mar 29, 2015 at 9:40 PM, Cameron Shorter < >>> cameron.shor...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Thanks all for the feedback. >>> So my question is: >>> 1. Should our Code of Conduct/Diversity statement mention that we have a >>> multilingual community? >>> >>> I believe it's still a good idea. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> 2. What should we recommend that all, and especially native speakers do >>> to >>> make our community welcoming to non-native speakers? >>> >>> I'd suggest, just a reminder that the level of written English can vary a >>> lot, ranging from cases where the lack of fluency is >>> >>> evident, to cases where the sentence seems just too direct/rude, so >>> generally speaking, it's a good idea to try and be patient >>> >>> and understanding. >>> >>> Sometimes I wish there was a guide of typical expectations/orientations >>> varying culture by culture, to try >>> >>> and understand better where people are coming from and put what they say >>> in >>> context (this example >>> >>> might be wrong or just a silly generalizations, but just to give you an >>> idea, I've heard >>> >>> Japanese normally won't say no in a conversation, you have to figure it >>> out, >>> and other cultures surely >>> >>> have their "surprising" traits as well). >>> >>> Cheers >>> >>> Andrea >>> >>> -- >>> >>> == >>> >>> GeoServer Professional Services from the experts! 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