Just my 0.0002 cents, I feel things are getting over complicated.
We have a CoC, and I think all the Charther member should confirm they agree (actually a pre-requisite to become a charter member). Then if a serious case is detected the Member can be eventually banned from the community. Otherwise we could pretend to do a have an official censorship system checking all contents and decides what is fine or not... :-D My point of view is that unless explicitly offensive and against law it is responsability and credibility of each person to act according correct moral society rules. Maxi 2015-06-24 15:13 GMT+02:00 Sanghee Shin <shs...@gaia3d.com>: > Dear All, > > One thing I could say about the controversial #6 slide is that that is > exactly what Salvador Dali try to point out. I didn’t crop out the image > intentionally for ‘commercial.’ Image in #6 can be found in internet as > well as art history book. > > If you visited Dali Museum in Figueres, Spain and stood just in front of > that painting, Dali’s ‘Lincoln in Dalivision’ just look like that, a nude > female. However if you move back to 10~20 meters away from that, now you > can realise the real meaning of that painting, that’s the portrait of > Abraham Lincoln - the president of USA. > > I just used that image to stress the importance of long distance from the > object or sometimes from the too experienced ordinary culture. > > I feel like this discussion is just like Dali’s painting. > > All the best, > > Sanghee > --- > Sanghee Shin, Chair of FOSS4G 2015 Seoul > "Toward Diversity! FOSS4G Bigbang from Seoul!" > http://2015.foss4g.org > Twitter: @foss4g > Facebook: FOSS4G2015 > email: foss4gch...@osgeo.org > > > > 2015. 6. 24., 오후 1:08, Milo van der Linden <m...@dogodigi.net> 작성: > > Hi Sanghee, > > Thank you for taking this matter to the discuss mailinglist. My first > reaction when clicking the links from your post was, no problem, this is > well accepted from my european perspective and I do not directly see any > offense in them nor see any offense in other cultures. However, after > looking at them in context (in the slideshare presentation) this is my > opinion. > > 1. I don't understand the slides with the Dali painting. What do you want > to say with them? In my opinion they can be removed without downgrading the > presentation. > > 2. In my opinion; the slide with the header "Culture" showing the row of > female models will bring a better message with another picture. Currently I > interpret this slide as: "Come to Korea for the beautiful women" and I > believe that is not the message you want to send under the header "Culture". > > 3. There are a few slides with a lot of prominently displayed alcoholic > drinks, in one slide, it even looks like a "drinking game". There are a lot > of cultures that are offended by that too. Simply removing them, again, > would not make your presentation worse, it would make it stronger. > > Final thought: > > I agree with the request for removal/replacement but I think you should > also do something about the alcoholic drinks given this presentation holds > a prominent position on the main page for the foss4g event. This would make > your presentation stronger, because apart from this minor thing, it is an > interesting slideshow that has me interested in going to Seoul! > > So thank you for that! > > With respect, kind regards. > > > > > > 2015-06-24 12:22 GMT+02:00 Sanghee Shin <shs...@gaia3d.com>: > >> Dear All, >> >> It’s now time to apply OSGeo CoC(Code of Conduct)[0] in real case. >> >> I was asked to remove a few slides from my presentation "7 Reasons why >> you should come to FOSS4G 2015 Seoul”[1], which is at the main page of >> FOSS4G Seoul, as being possibly offensive to women. Specifically to say, >> slide #6 (nude female in painting) and slide #20 (row of female models) are >> those controversial ones. >> >> I refused this asking immediately because I don’t believe my presentation >> breach the OSGeo CoC and I don’t agree with that view. >> >> However since this is not the first time asking me to remove those slides >> from my presentation and OSGeo now have CoC, I think we’d better discuss >> this issue more openly to reach conclusions. >> >> I might be wrong and I’d like to hear other people’s opinion on this from >> all around the world. Also I expect Conference Committee’s input as well, >> because this is the matter of OSGeo conference. >> >> I’m open to remove/amend/keep those slides after hearing other people’s >> opinions on this. Also I believe it’ll be a great chance for OSGeo to learn >> how to apply CoC in real cases. >> >> *Sidenote for defending myself: >> - Slide #6 is the part of Salvador Dali’s well known painting named >> “Lincoln in Dalivision”[2] >> - Slide #20 is the picture of famous girl group, Girls’ >> Generation(SNSD)[3], which I believe as symbolic icon of wide spread of >> Korean culture(K-Culture) in/around Asia. >> >> All the best, >> >> Sanghee >> >> [0]http://www.osgeo.org/code_of_conduct >> [1]http://2015.foss4g.org >> [2]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lincoln_in_Dalivision >> [3]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Girls%27_Generation >> --- >> Sanghee Shin, Chair of FOSS4G 2015 Seoul >> "Toward Diversity! FOSS4G Bigbang from Seoul!" >> http://2015.foss4g.org >> Twitter: @foss4g >> Facebook: FOSS4G2015 >> email: foss4gch...@osgeo.org >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Discuss mailing list >> Discuss@lists.osgeo.org >> http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > > > > > -- > [image: http://www.dogodigi.net] <http://www.dogodigi.net/> > *Milo van der Linden* > web: dogodigi <http://www.dogodigi.net/> > tel: +31-6-16598808 > > > > _______________________________________________ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss@lists.osgeo.org > http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > -- *Massimiliano Cannata* Professore SUPSI in ingegneria Geomatica Responsabile settore Geomatica Istituto scienze della Terra Dipartimento ambiente costruzione e design Scuola universitaria professionale della Svizzera italiana Campus Trevano, CH - 6952 Canobbio Tel. +41 (0)58 666 62 14 Fax +41 (0)58 666 62 09 massimiliano.cann...@supsi.ch *www.supsi.ch/ist <http://www.supsi.ch/ist>*
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