Hi Maxi,
Yes, I assume that Nik, Marc and others who draft the marketing wiki will consider feedback from the community, and the first draft will help us in the community refine our ideas about what we think is important.
Warm regards, Cameron

On 18/03/2016 10:35 pm, Massimiliano Cannata wrote:
Thanks Cameron,
I also think that Nik and Marc can start to work on the MarkCom and are legitimated to do so.

This doesn't need stop the discussion which is aiming at providing positive aspects: thinking about needs and gaps to be filled and considered is a worth process. (I used to think and discuss with my colleagues before start coding, usually this save me time and produce better results :-P)

Maxi



2016-03-18 12:27 GMT+01:00 Cameron Shorter <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>:

    Nicolas, Marc,
    You both have proposed some excellent ideas on what we should do
    within the marketing committee, and I think you are also offering
    to make it happen? Thank you.

    I suggest put your ideas into the existing marketing wiki, as
    linked from here: https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Marketing_Committee

    I suggest not being scared to archive old content. Maybe initially
    move under an "Old Material" heading, with strikeout font, or move
    to an "archive" wiki page, and eventually remove all together.
    Some of this old content I've created, and I'll be delighted to
    see it ruthlessly refreshed and improved in the ways you've suggested.

    I expect that once you put draft ideas together with a commitment
    to move it forward, you will attract positive feedback, and likely
    attract more volunteers.

    I don't think it matters much whether you work under the banner of
    "marketing committee", "web committee" or "conference committee".
    The key element is that something gets done. We are volunteers,
    and we are effective as a "do-ocracy".

    So please feel empowered, and start putting your ideas into the
    wiki. Ask for feedback. It is always easier to discuss an idea
    after someone has writing a first draft. I'd love to see what you
    suggest.

    Warm regards, Cameron


    On 18/03/2016 10:11 am, Jody Garnett wrote:
    Thanks for the clarity Marc, there is a very different focus
    between the two activities.

    My two-cents is what we need here - and what Cameron asked for at
    the start of the thread - is volunteers to put time on the table.
    OSGeo is a volunteer organization, please in pitch in to make it
    great.

    --
    Jody Garnett

    On 17 March 2016 at 09:37, Marc VLOEMANS <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

        All

If this year's marketing communication and budget is reflecting last
        year's, then that's of course a discretionary Board decision.
        To combine WebCom and MarkCom can in that case be a practical solution, 
for now...
However, to combine them more permanently would downgrade the 'Art of Marketing'
        to just 'Promotion'. And would not emply the total toolbox at our 
disposal to grow usage of
        FOSS for GIS. Marketing can be so much more...
In order to really benefit from all marketing has to offer, we need to have established at a minimum level:
        - what are our offerings/products/services and their added end value?
        - what is (are) our target segment audience(s), direct and indirect for 
the above?
        - how do we create interest for it/these (the promotional aspect) per 
target group?
        - how/via which appropriate channels do we distribute that 
offering-product-service (incl OSGeo-Live)
        - which community members/orgs/externals/partners/suppliers are to be 
involved
        - what are available timelines, resources and deliverables?
        And these questions-answers are to be addressed interdependently in a 
single coherent approach.
If such approach is considered too far fetched...then just have a single Com
        for the future, focusing on promotional aspects and media; 'PromCom'.
Not my preferred choice, though ;-) Marc Vloemans


        Kind regards,

        Marc Vloemans

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        2016-03-17 12:45 GMT+01:00 Gert-Jan van der Weijden
        (OSGeo.nl) <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>:

            Hi all,

            The website is a tool, just as OSGeo-Live is a tool.
            The 2 committees (WebCom and MarkCom) are closely related.

            In  my opinion MarkCom set the goals and probably defines
            what tools are needed to reach these goals.
            WebCom makes sure  one of these tools is up and running.
            That requires different skill, which makes it a valid
            choice to keep the 2 committees separated.


            Regards,

            Gert-Jan



            Venkatesh Raghavan schreef op 16-03-2016 7:53:

                On 3/16/2016 3:00 PM, Massimiliano Cannata wrote:

                    I think that nicolas ideas are fully right.
                    Website is one of the
                    best
                    marketing tool.
                    Maybe making one committee from two dormient make
                    one awake... could
                    we
                    consider to join webcom and marketing in a new one?


                I also think that merging web and marketing
                committees would make a
                lot
                of sense.

                Best

                Venka

                    Maxi
                    Il 15/Mar/2016 21:39, "Jody Garnett"
                    <[email protected]
                    <mailto:[email protected]>> ha
                    scritto:

                    Thanks Cameron & Nick, could you start outlining
                    a "reboot" on the
                    wiki
                    and grab an agenda item for next months board
                    meeting? We also have
                    a
                    hangout/workparty for board members (and
                    officers?) in case you want
                    some
                    companionship shaping the wiki page.

                    --
                    Jody Garnett

                    On 15 March 2016 at 04:38, nicolas bozon
                    <[email protected]
                    <mailto:[email protected]>>
                    wrote:

                    Dear Cameron, Marketing Committee, OSGeo Directors,

                    As a member of the so called "dormant" Marketing
                    Committee, i would
                    be
                    glad to help revitalising it.

                    In fact it hasn't been a satisfactory nor
                    confortable situation to
                    be a
                    member of such a forgotten commitee since 2012.
                    So i'd like to volunteer for championing such
                    committee reboot, and
                    propose to help define strategic changes, recruit
                    new members and
                    tackle
                    some of the administrative tasks.
                    I can also chair the Committee if needed, and if
                    this is
                    appropriated for
                    gathering the troops. Cameron, I am not Santa
                    (but 'Klaus' only:)),
                    but I'd
                    be very glad to learn from your experience and we
                    may try to enhance
                    things
                    together.

                    However,i think the commitee's mission and role
                    should be revised,
                    probably indepth modified, and aligned with the
                    new OSGeo plans.
                    My main point is that the mandate of the OSGeo
                    Marketing Committee
                    must
                    go way beyond the funding of OSGeo events and the
                    managment of
                    consumables
                    or swag, as it mostly did (or not) until now.
                    OSGeo Live is one of our best marketing tool to
                    showcase some of the
                    Foundation's software projects, but not to
                    promote and market the
                    Foundation itself IMHO.
                    OSGeo Live must of course be kept inside a new
                    marketing plan, but
                    the
                    latter shouldn't be built on DVDs and events only.

                    According to me, improving OSGeo Marketing
                    globally is one of the
                    most
                    important and urgent action to be taken according
                    to the new
                    strategic plan
                    defined by the Board.
                    It must help OSGeo to be presented as more
                    matured, more inclusive,
                    more
                    professional, and fully considered by the broader
                    geospatial
                    community.

                    I believe such reborn Marketing Committee should
                    work closely along
                    with
                    the Board of Directors, the Website Committee and
                    a few motivated
                    contributors, in order to:

                    - Define a consitent OSGeo identity from existing
                    material
                    (including
                    revised graphic guidelines, new shapes and colors
                    aligned with
                    identified
                    needs and recent web trends, new scalable vector
                    graphics, web fonts
                    ...)
                    - Refine the OSGeo web identity (including main
                    site redesign
                    through the
                    developement a new drupal theme, responsive
                    webdesign, efficient and
                    reusable visuals...)
                    - Enhance OSGeo web content and presence
                    (including blog, journal,
                    newsletter and bring more activity on various
                    social networks)
                    - Market the OSGeo brand online and at all kind
                    of events (including
                    consumables management, viral marketing, direct
                    marketing...)

                    Such actions could be prioritized and voted by
                    the Committee's
                    members,
                    coordinated by the commitee's chair according to
                    the Committee
                    members, and
                    aligned with the allocated budget and volunteered
                    time.

                    I sincerly hope we can reboot and improve our
                    Marketing Committee
                    together, in order to grow and market our
                    Foundation better.
                    Let us talk, decide and act now ! Enough rest for
                    MarkCom' !

                    Best regards,

                    Nick


    On 15/03/2016 10:22 pm, Marc Vloemans wrote:
    Before handing out money to undoubtedly worthy causes...a
    marketing (which is more than just the promotional 'P' ) plan
    would be the usual starting point. Agreed upon by the Board and
    with input from all.

    So. Why is what is given to whom, when and to what amount?
    Effectively; what precedes a marketing committee.

    Unless, a plan/framework is in place, Santa Claus/Easter
    Bunny/Tooth Fairy/etc. can expect to receive a lot of flak.
    Groups and initiatives have no clue as to what (governable) rules
    to comply with. Besides all sorts of unwanted chaos and
    misunderstandings can be expected.

    By the way, does one also not start to code without some sort of
    initial and agreed plan?

    Any volunteers besides me to have a stab at it?

    Vriendelijke groet,
    Marc Vloemans


                    2016-03-15 8:42 GMT+01:00 Cameron Shorter
                    <[email protected]
                    <mailto:[email protected]>>:

                    OSGeo needs help distributing money to worthy
                    causes. We need an
                    OSGeo
                    Santa Clause.

                    The current state of play is:
                    * The OSGeo Board has allocated budget for an
                    OSGeo marketing
                    committee
                    to distribute.

                    * But, our OSGeo Marketing committee has
                    imploded. (I was the last
                    chair, a few years back). It seems no one is
                    interested in the
                    administrative tasks of giving away money, doing
                    the administrative
                    work of
                    writing cheques, being accountable, deciding
                    which requests get
                    funded
                    verses which don't based on a set of guidelines.

                    My take is that handing out money to worthy
                    marketing causes can't
                    be
                    too important, as it is not bugging anyone enough
                    to want to step up
                    and
                    volunteer to fix it. But I'd be delighted to
                    proven wrong, and see
                    some
                    people volunteer to step up to revitalise the
                    OSGeo marketing
                    committee. If
                    you are possibly interested, please speak up. I'd
                    be happy to help
                    you get
                    started.

                    A first task would be to consider this request
                    from Bob.

                    Warm regards, Cameron

                    On 9/03/2016 6:29 am, Jody Garnett wrote:

                    Sounds like an amazing event, marketing committee
                    should have a
                    budget
                    to work against shortly (it is an agenda topic
                    for this week and you
                    can
                    see the budget

                
<https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Board_of_Directors#Operational_Budget_for_2016>

                    [1]

                    on the wiki ).

                    Cameron is involved with both marketing committee
                    and OSGeo live and
                    should be able to assist.

                    --
                    Jody Garnett

                    On 8 March 2016 at 08:59, Bob Basques
                    <[email protected]
                    <mailto:[email protected]>>
                    wrote:

                    All,

                    I haven’t heard anything back on the following
                    request from anyone
                    (other than Jody commenting about where this
                    should be sent . . .).

                    So trying again . . .

                    --------------------

                    All,

                    First, let me know if this is the wrong list to
                    request from.

                    We’re holding a regional Geo conference and would
                    like to include
                    a
                    OSGeo-Live thumb drive in each attendees goody
                    bag. So, please
                    consider
                    this an official request for funding of OSGeo
                    Live Thumb Drives for
                    the
                    event.

                    This is a multi- discipline, multi-state event
                    for all things Geo.
                    60
                    confirmed presenters.  This will be a highly
                    knowledgable audience
                    and
                    because of the varied subject matter it will be
                    an excellent venue
                    to get
                    the word out to new folks about OSGeo and it’s
                    mission, via the
                    OSGeo Live
                    project.  More info about the event can be seen here:

                    www.umgeocon.org <http://www.umgeocon.org> [2]


                    We’ve planned for 350 attendees.  We can make our
                    own thumb
                    drives,
                    and/or pay to have them made ourselves.  We’ve
                    handed these out in
                    the past
                    and will also include a getting started cheat
                    sheet for each user to
                    get
                    them going with the least amount of effort.

                    I haven’t checked lately for the going rate on
                    these. Local
                    suppliers
                    are advertising ~$5 each for an 8GB USB3.0 blank
                    drive.

                    Request is for $2000 ($1750 for Drives, $250 for
                    copying the OSGeo
                    Live
                    suite to each).

                    Related, my submission of the OSGeo Live
                    presentation has been
                    accepted
                    at the event, and there will also be a (free)
                    GeoMOOSE workshop.

                    bobb

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