Venka, all,

I agree that low income economies don't have the potential to make as much money as high income economies. Everything is cheaper: venue hire, food, tickets. However, both high and low income conferences face the same risks (as a percentage) and as such should factor to have the same surplus (as a percentage) which should be returned to OSGeo.

I feel quite strongly that there will be significant (often unvoiced) decent from areas within the OSGeo community if OSGeo is seen to be favouring one community over another. (Even if the favoured community is very deserving).

When I was a FOSS4G chair I was surprised at just how many different user groups had incredibly valid reasons for getting a free pass, and then felt very put out if they were not granted such a pass. The problem is, most people don't want to pay for someone else's free pass.

On 27/08/2016 7:44 AM, Cameron Shorter wrote:
One of the strengths of successful open source communities (actually most volunteer communities) is their long term sustainability, which is achieved by each small component within the community being self sustaining in its own right. Extending this principle to finances of conferences, I suggest that every conference should aim to be financially sustainable. It need not aim for a huge profit, but should aim to break even under conservative estimates (leading to a modest profit under typical scenarios).

It is worth noting that small foss4g events can be run very cheaply, using a basic formula of a "Meetup Event" getting free space at a local pub, with participants buying their own beer/food.

On 6/09/2016 7:53 PM, Steven Feldman wrote:
Thanks Venka

Minutes updated to include your suggestion at 
https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Conference_Committee_F2F_2016
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Steven


On 6 Sep 2016, at 03:19, Venka <[email protected]> wrote:

Hi Guidi and all,

On 2016/08/26 1:18, Guido Stein wrote:
I have added my notes and action items from the meeting on the wiki.

https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Conference_Committee_F2F_2016
Thanks for your notes of the meeting.

"Rest of World years should target a minimum of a break with a lower expectation of 
the share of surplus being returned to OSGeo. A larger share of any surplus should be 
reinvested into local OSGeo activities."

Regarding the note above, such special arrangement should apply
only when FOSS4G is organized in/by communities of the
Low or Lower-Middle Income Economies as defined by the World Bank and WHO [1]. 
Cost of living and PPP [2] is considerable different in
Low or Lower-Middle Income Economies and thereby the conference fee
could be considerably lower.

FOSS4G-2015 in Seoul adopted a special pricing for participants for
Low or Lower-Middle Income Economies, which could be adopted in future
conferences.

"Rest of the World" would surely not include high income countries listed in 
[1], I think.

Best

Venka

[1] https://datahelpdesk.worldbank.org/knowledgebase/articles/906519
[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Purchasing_power_parity

Hope that this helps,

Guido

On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 1:58 PM Steven Feldman <[email protected]> wrote:

Reminder

Face to face meeting tomorrow at 16.00-17.00

Suggest we meet at the reception desk and the funds somewhere to sit
(perhaps by the river?)

Agenda at http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Conference_Committee_F2F_2016

Regards
Steven


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