+ 1 for Sanghee (mostly): I will try to make my contribution because it is an issue that concerns me even before being elected as a charter member.
Personally I do not like that there are no representatives outside of Europe and the USA in the Board, but... it is a fact. And this happens for many reasons (not only inside OSGeo but in most international organizations). It is worth asking, for example, why I am the first (after 10 responses) that responds from outside these regions. And this proportion will probably be maintained, if the discussion advances. I think that this predominance of a "WHITE Directory only from Europe and North America" will remain unless the members from "outside" begin to make their voice heard. And not by participation fees that are not supported by firm foundations. That is why we created the GeoForAll Iberoamerica group, as a space to start raising the voice of this part of the world (I feel more "GeoForAll" than "OSGeo" maybe for these reasons; hopefully we can get the idea to be copied by others). I even think that OSGeo has more reason to exist outside the regions most represented in this new Board (I mean Asia, Africa, Latin America) but to achieve a more equitable representation, much work must be done in several ways. And it is those of these regions who have to start raising their voices. Organize and claim for more spaces. It's not worth only complaining but acting. We need to understand why things are the way they are. For instance the great act of commitment to the community of being a member of the Board probably won't mean the same to an European or American (from USA ;-)) than to an African (from Malawi, for instance) because he or she will surely has other -bigger, more urgent- worries. How do we change this? It's not easy. But not impossible. My 0.002 cents Sergio Acosta y Lara Departamento de Geomática Dirección Nacional de Topografía Ministerio de Transporte y Obras Públicas URUGUAY (598)29157933 ints. 20329/20330 http://geoportal.mtop.gub.uy/ ________________________________________ De: Discuss <[email protected]> en nombre de Jeff McKenna <[email protected]> Enviado: lunes, 30 de octubre de 2017 12:01 Para: [email protected] Asunto: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] My feelings about board elections Hi Sanghee, Thanks for your well written and honest message. To your first point, I fully agree with you. We have worked so hard early on to make sure that OSGeo is a representation of all members from all around the world, and we now have a NA-Europe Board. Venka's and your efforts to represent OSGeo is hard to put into words, as it is so important. Venka is the glue that keeps us all together and motivated to share. I think we can use this election to learn from it, to make something positive for the foundation. We saw a lot of things happen, and a lot of people volunteered to help make the elections happen - quite a shocking amount of volunteer time was required this year. Could this election be the driver we need to move to a Board that is represented by Charter members from specific geographic regions? Absolutely. I think we need a champion to drive that, put a formal process proposal on the wiki, and bring that to the Charter members for comments. In the short term our goal could be to get the Charter members more involved at the Board level, to put the difficult decisions to the shoulders of the Charter members, and the OSGeo Board members just manage this. The election process is a good place to start, while it is so fresh in everyone's minds. To your second point: it is difficult to be put through such an aggressive campaign against you, in public. It is something that I wouldn't wish on anyone, and I hope we can avoid putting another OSGeo volunteer through that again. I think we can use this whole election and all agree on a proper process, to make sure that all of OSGeo is represented. Now is a great time to start working on this all together. Let's learn from this. -jeff On 2017-10-29 11:17 AM, Sanghee Shin wrote: > Dear All, > > First of all I'd like to give my sincere congratulations to newly > elected board members. Here I want to share some of my feelings around > this board elections. > > 1. Needless to say all new board members are deserved to win the > election. However as a whole, now we have all WHITE board of directors > only from Europe and North America. We've talked about the importance of > diversity and inclusiveness many times so far, however the reality is > like this. Please don't get me wrong. I'm not writing this because of my > failure in an election. Being nominated and encouragement to run the > election was just great honour to me. For me as Asian, one of most > shocking and disappointing moment in this election was Venka's failure > in an election. Venka has contributed so much to Asian community over > the last 2 years. His contributions and activities reached out not only > to Japan but also to Thailand, Vietnam, India and sometimes to Korea as > well. He also put so much efforts organizing FOSS4G Asia this year. And > I know as a former board member how he restlessly carried out his duty > as president of OSGeo. And finally he failed! I know he didn't answer to > some of quesitons to nominees during the election period. Ok, it’s > excuse however he and I was being tied up with handling a urgent issue > in community. Anyway I and other Asian friends are so shocked that he > was not elected! I bet other Asian members share the same feeling. The > result gave the clear meaning to Asian community, "If Venka can't be a > board member of OSGeo, nobody can be forever from Asia." I already saw > many complaints and discouragement in Asian community. I believe regions > other than Europe and NA have the rights to be reprensented failry. So, > I'd like to ask new board members to fix this kind of wrong > representation of board configuration by adopting new election rules. > > 2. I believe Jeff McKenna's ambiguous behaviours around election period > made both him and OSGeo untrustworthy. I don't want to mention again > here some of concerns over him in detail during the election. One thing > I'd like to point out is his un-withdrwal from board election after > disclosing the results. Nothing personal, Jeff. Actually I tried to > accept and understand this situation so many times for a couple of days, > but I failed to accept. We're not the children in the kindergarten! How > can it be happened? The last thing I did as a former board member was > approving the motion, "This board election is valid." I was able to > block the motion however I approved the motion. Because I accepted his > withdrawal as sincere one and trusted him. I'm feeling my good intention > was being betrayed. I know I don't have any rights now to change my > previous decision and I don't want to criticise someone here. New board, > this case cleary has shown that there's big loophole in our election > process. If OSGe can't fix it, OSGeo will lose trust and credibility. > Board, you need to bear in mind that there's already bunch of sign of > loosing trust from community. > > Many mentioned that OSGeo is run by Do-ocracy. I believe the basis of > Do-ocracy is recognizing of someone's work and trust. If someone's > hardwork is not recognized and acknowledged fairy, who will want to jump > into the matters to fix it? And if someone can't trust the organization, > who wants to put their precious time and efforts to untrustworthy one? > > If OSGeo lose the trust, it will lose everything. OSGeo is just shell. > > Best regards, > > 신상희 > --- > Shin, Sanghee > Gaia3D, Inc. - The GeoSpatial Company > www.gaia3d.com > _______________________________________________ Discuss mailing list [email protected] https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss _______________________________________________ Discuss mailing list [email protected] https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
