Thanks, you have some good ideas in here Marc.

Would you mind adding them as a comment in the document as people who are doing the editing can see each others comments and track changes.

I've set you up with review access to the document.

Thanks Cameron


On 27/2/18 9:28 pm, Marc Vloemans wrote:
Hi Cameron,

Great to have such comprehensive argument in writing. The deadline of 15th 
March allows me only to jot down some quick notions.

The business/market side of things is relatively underrepresented, while being 
essential for project sustainability. Could I suggest the following.

Open collaboration on eg code in/by governmental bodies requires explicit 
interaction with ‘the market’. And that is precisely where gov bodies/agencies 
usually are or feel or should be hamstrung.

This is entails some notions (some of these touched upon, but may need to be 
made more explicit);
- most gov organisations simply don’t have the tech skills in-house to 
participate on a technical level with (or instigate) Dev communities
- or capabilities to otherwise engage with communities
- these orgs have to rely on external experts; most notably service suppliers
- or build their internal expertise, which will be difficult, expensive and not 
the ‘core business’ of government
- in any case, gov bodies have to go beyond traditional supply-demand 
interactions
- while safe guarding pre-competitive behaviour
- OS foundations usually provide that environment of necessary 
vendor-neutrality (besides the elements of meritocracy etc you mention) and 
pre-comp interactions

I feel your doc would benefit from the extra angle where you address 
public-private collaboration with a particularly view as to the ‘how’. The 
‘why’ and ‘what’ of the argument depend on that. Unless the practicalities are 
addressed it is (too) easy for sceptics to just say ‘no’.

My two cents

Kind regards,
Marc Vloemans


Op 27 feb. 2018 om 00:18 heeft Dirk Frigne <dirk.fri...@geosparc.com> het 
volgende geschreven:

Cameron,

Nice initiative.
Now it is a bit to late for me, but if you can grant me review access, I
will review and comment tommorow.

Dirk.

On 26-02-18 22:52, Cameron Shorter wrote:
The Australian Government has asked for feedback on how they are going
at Open Government, and I've started a draft response. I'm really keen
to make sure that this response is well constructed because I think that
if listened to, understood, and acted upon, then we can make a huge
difference to the effectiveness of Open Government worldwide - and by
extension, to Open Source as well.

If you have a chance to read and provide review comments, I'd be very
grateful. Email me directly to get review access.

(It will take ~ 10 minutes to read. Longer if you take time to think
about how things should be reworded and consider what is missing and
should be included.)

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jNdh4_A_cIpaHqLRFOgpvAY3JSo0Ueraam39UHFOGHs/edit#heading=h.5zu4u4o3l7zi


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