I think this email, cited by Sara Safavi, from Marc Vloemans [1] is just unbelievable and thus unacceptable to this community.

I demand a public apology by Marc Vloemans for his accusations against Sara Safavi and the OSGeo organisation and community. Furthermore, I demand the OSGeo board to force LocationTech to publish the finacial records as a matter of course. I also suggest to discontinue any relationships with LocationTech if there is no public apology for this incident.

If we (OSGeo) fail to make it at clear as possible, that mafia-like behavior of silencing very valid requests about holding a promise for transparency (i.e. a core value of our community), is unacceptable and thus will not be accepted by any means. Otherwise THIS will become very toxic for OSGeo indeed.


[1] https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/conference_dev/2018-June/004774.html


Am 21.06.2018 um 23:50 schrieb Sara:
Hi Cameron, all,

I was originally trying to avoid any semblance of "stirring up trouble", but I think I messed up and need to be clearer.

Earlier in this thread I said:
> It's not a matter of hurtful words, though; it's no longer wanting to be affiliated with a community whose members make open threats to my employment. I like & need my job too much to continue making myself a target for that.

For the benefit of anyone on discuss@ who is not also on conference_dev@, I am referring to the message I replied to here:
https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/conference_dev/2018-June/004774.html

To be excessively clear: after the above exchange, I do not feel safe participating further in a community which has *officers* who can attempt to threaten my livelihood unchallenged, simply because I persisted in asking a question.

As I told Jeff earlier, I'll still be out here "doing the work" but the OSGeo community no longer feels like a safe or welcoming place for me to do that from.

Cameron said:
> We should do our best to ensure opinions are stated respectfully, and encourage forgiveness when we slip up and get a bit passionate.

I'm not sure who you are referring to with this, but please do let me know if you mean me.

Regards,
Sara

On Thu, Jun 21, 2018 at 3:01 PM, Cameron Shorter <cameron.shor...@gmail.com <mailto:cameron.shor...@gmail.com>> wrote:

    Sara,

    +1 to Jeff and Maxi's words of personal support.

    We are an effective community when people feel welcomed and
    participate. This doesn't happen when people leave, either
    silently (as is usually the case), or publicly as you have
    suggested here. We should be able to hear people's opinions and
    respect their right to say them. We should do our best to ensure
    opinions are stated respectfully, and encourage forgiveness when
    we slip up and get a bit passionate.

    (We say as much in our Code of Conduct).
    https://www.osgeo.org/code_of_conduct/
    <https://www.osgeo.org/code_of_conduct/>

    Warm regards, Cameron



    On 21/6/18 12:26 am, Jeff McKenna wrote:

        Hi Sara,

        Although we haven't (yet) shared FOSS4G travels together I
        have to say that I truly admire your passion and efforts, and
        we share a lot of the same traits (do-ing, asking questions,
        diving in, etc.)  I strongly second Maxi's words.  You are a
        leader and a big part of the OSGeo community.  Much of what
        you have been saying or asking I've been literally taking
        notes of how we can improve.  In fact I see you taking on more
        of a role and not less.  I am just speaking from the heart and
        being open.

        I know how the written word can be so hurtful these days (and
        I don't want / but yet know that unfortunately my own words
        here can be misinterpreted as taking one side versus another),
        but I hope this public support shown here can give you renewed
        hope and energy for the OSGeo community.

        I encourage you to keep being you.

        -jeff



        On 2018-06-19 2:03 PM, Sara wrote:

            Hello community,

            Can someone point me at the relevant documentation re:
            retiring current membership status? Specifically, related
            to Charter membership.

            I understand the processes to nominate & add new charter
            members but not clear on how current charter members can
            retire.

            To put it another way: how to edit
            https://www.osgeo.org/about/charter-members/
            <https://www.osgeo.org/about/charter-members/>
            <https://www.osgeo.org/about/charter-members/
            <https://www.osgeo.org/about/charter-members/>>?

            Thanks,
            Sara Safavi


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