Vicky is just the messenger, and may of caused some confusion when describing a new service the system admin committee has brought online. There no move planned; just some new software has just been installed and is available for any groups wishing to make use of discourse.
Folks have requested a forum for a while now - part of lowering the barrier of entry for a new generation etc… I hope the groups that have been waiting for this could help explain to the discussion list. I am afraid I am just unfamiliar with this particular forum software which is why I have been asking questions. -- Jody Garnett On Dec 29, 2023 at 3:43:03 AM, Cannata Massimiliano via Discuss < discuss@lists.osgeo.org> wrote: > Dear all, > My 2cents... > > Discourse seems an appealing solution for query and answer but I agree > with Bruce that before we move we should have a nice open discussion, since > it's not gonna be the magic stick... > I've seen the platform used at some universities and seeing last post > dated one year ago didn't attract people to use it.. > > I also believe we have a low engagement rate in the latest year and deep > open reflections should be done in my opinion to revamp it... Since our > community have been highly relevant and has more to say in my opinion.. > > > Il 28 dic 2023 23:53, Bruce Bannerman via Discuss <discuss@lists.osgeo.org> > ha scritto: > > Apart from these few emails telling me that a move to something called > Discourse is happening, I have not seen any discussion on our lists > explaining the pros and cons of such a move. > > I find this lack of community engagement on this issue to be troubling. > > This does not seem to be a very open source community way of making such a > significant move. > > Personally, what we have now has been working nicely for me for close on > 20 years. > > The lists have been very quiet for quite a while now, but that is a > community engagement issue. It is not something that technology will > magically fix. > > It seems to me that we have a case of the tail wagging the dog. > > Kind regards, > > Bruce > > > On 29 Dec 2023, at 05:15, Jody Garnett via Discuss < > discuss@lists.osgeo.org> wrote: > > > Reading online it appears there is: > > 1. A mailing list mode so notifications are sent out each time a post is > made (this is a user preference) > > 2. A reply via email mode > > So experimentation is needed. > > Reference: > - > https://meta.discourse.org/t/what-is-mailing-list-mode/46008/8 > - > https://meta.discourse.org/t/set-up-reply-by-email-with-pop3-polling/14003 > > > -- > Jody Garnett > > > On Thu, Dec 28, 2023 at 10:09 AM Jody Garnett <jody.garn...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > I think we need someone who understand how discourse works to make an > informed decision. > > If the forum fills up with questions; and the developers are minding the > email list - it will not work out so well :) At least as described. > -- > Jody Garnett > > > On Thu, Dec 28, 2023 at 6:58 AM Vicky Vergara <vi...@erosion.dev> wrote: > > > > On Wed, Dec 27, 2023 at 11:43 AM Jody Garnett <jody.garn...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > Q: So if a mailing list is mirrored to discourse it operates similar to > nabble used to? Is searchable etc … > > I don't know the details of how discourse works, > > > But replies done via discourse are not sent to mailing list subscribers - > so it is one way communication. > > https://meta.discourse.org/t/create-a-read-only-mailing-list-mirror/77990 > > > And the thinking here is that discourse is easier for people who want to > ask a specific question without subscribing to a mailing list (and getting > yet more email). > > Yes, so you can have the mirror in one category and another catergory for > Q&A > > -- > Jody Garnett > > > On Wed, Dec 27, 2023 at 9:07 AM Vicky Vergara <vi...@erosion.dev> wrote: > > Hi Jody > > We are offering options > > Before: > Use mailing list > > After: > * Use mailing list and see the archives only on https://lists.osgeo.org/ > * Use mailing list and see the archives also on discourse > * Use discourse without a mailing list > > > This are the possibilities regarding migration of mailing list > * Have the mailing list migrated completely to discourse example [1] (Use > discourse without a mailing list, but get previous conversations from > mailing list) > * Have a mirror of the mailing in discourse example [2] (Use mailing list > and see the archives also on discourse) > * Have a category on discourse and not have a mailing list example [3] was > created by Jody (Use discourse without a mailing list) > * Opt to not migrate or mirror the mailing list example [4] (Use mailing > list and see the archives only on https://lists.osgeo.org/) > > [1] https://discourse.osgeo.org/c/qgis/qgis-fr-user/5 > [2] https://discourse.osgeo.org/c/sac-global-category/sac/13 > [3] https://discourse.osgeo.org/t/about-the-osgeo-site-feedback-category/1 > [4] https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/foss4g2008loc/ > > Regards > Vicky > > On Wed, Dec 27, 2023 at 10:16 AM Jody Garnett <jody.garn...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > I was lurking in the sys admin chat as I was working on the osgeo sign up > form. Mailing lists are not going away, but I am unclear at what is being > offered. > -- > Jody Garnett > > > On Wed, Dec 27, 2023 at 8:01 AM Eli Adam <ea...@co.lincoln.or.us> wrote: > > Hi, > > I'm also unclear on what is going on. It looks like discourse options are > being added. This raises questions about mailing lists. 1. Are mailing > lists going away? 2. Can projects choose to keep just the mailing list and > not add dicourse? > > Thanks, Eli > ------------------------------ > *From:* Discuss <discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org> on behalf of Vicky > Vergara via Discuss <discuss@lists.osgeo.org> > *Sent:* Tuesday, December 26, 2023 9:52 PM > *To:* OSGeo Discussions <discuss@lists.osgeo.org> > *Subject:* Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Mailing lists to discourse migration > > Hi Jody, > > On Tue, Dec 26, 2023 at 9:31 PM Jody Garnett <jody.garn...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > Vicky, > > Is there any more information on what is being offered here? > > I have not used discourse very much. What do you mean by having a category > Can you be more clear about migrate and mirror. > > > Category, is like the one you created about the discourse site feedback. > Mirror, is a category that mirrors the mailing list, so the mails received > on the mailing list are also shown on discourse. > If you "reply" to those mails using discourse, they will not be shown on > the mailing list, as the mirror does not send mails to the mailing list. > The reply that will be shown is the one done using mail. > > > Will the existing list of email subscribers be part of migrating a mailing > list > > > When migrating subscribers are also migrated and are "staged users", and > they can log in using ldap, or github account. > If the mail of their log in matches, the staged users get assigned to the > person that logged in. > > Regards > Vicky > > > -- > Jody Garnett > > > On Tue, Dec 26, 2023 at 1:07 PM Vicky Vergara via Discuss < > discuss@lists.osgeo.org> wrote: > > Hello all > > We are ready to migrate mailing lists to discourse, > * Have the mailing list migrated completely to discourse > * Have a mirror of the mailing in discourse > * Have a category on discourse and not have a mailing list > * Opt to not migrate or mirror the mailing list > > A comprehensive list of mailing lists can be found here (not including > private mailing lists): > https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo > > You need to open a ticket to have the work done. > Follow the ticket examples below for the first 3 cases > > Regards > Vicky Vergara > > Example: Have the mailing list migrated completely to discourse: > > Ticket: https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/ticket/3064 (has link to ticket 3063) > + > Comment in Ticket: https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/ticket/3063 > > Created the following discourse category > https://discourse.osgeo.org/c/qgis/qgis-fr-user/5 > And the archives of the mailing list will not be removed: > https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/qgis-fr-user/ > Migration has finished so any new message to the list will not be received > on discourse, but the list will be disabled for before the end of january. > Mail on discourse: qgis-fr-user/@discourse.osgeo.org > > Example: Have a mirror of the mailing in discourse > Ticket: https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/ticket/3062 > Created the following discourse category > https://discourse.osgeo.org/c/sac-global-category/sac/13 > The mailing list will not be removed, and it is a mirror to the mailing > list > emails continue to be sent to s...@lists.osgeo.org > Replies can be done > > https://discourse.osgeo.org/t/re-osgeo-3062-import-sac-mailing-list-to-discourse/4747/2?u=cvvergara > But they will no be reflected on the mailing list > https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/sac/2023-December/thread.html > > Example: of category without mailing list > Ticket: https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/ticket/3066 > https://discourse.osgeo.org/c/osgeolive/osgeolive-docs/8 > > > _______________________________________________ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss@lists.osgeo.org > https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > > _______________________________________________ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss@lists.osgeo.org > https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > > > _______________________________________________ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss@lists.osgeo.org > https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss >
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