I think it was around $1/sq. ft.? On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 5:26 PM, Justin Lacko <jus...@takaji.ca> wrote:
> I don't know - Jay knows how many sq. ft. we're paying for currently. > > On 3 October 2012 17:18, Mark Campbell <nitrod...@gmail.com> wrote: > > How much would skullspace save by giving up 575 square feet? > > > > On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 5:12 PM, Justin Lacko <jus...@takaji.ca> wrote: > >> > >> You guys are making this harder than it needs to be... no, we won't > >> try to make them SkSp members... why would Ramp Up want to join us? > >> > >> Why would we look into building some kind of corridor that will > >> severely decrease our hallway space and just create more work for us? > >> > >> Why would we look into administering the space and providing power and > >> finished rooms and then charge some kind of adjusted rent, which would > >> create a huge headache for us (and I would not be willing to manage a > >> space that we sublet, less I become a kind of defacto landlord myself > >> >_>)? > >> > >> The easiest solution... and the one that requires almost no investment > >> from us and instant reward in the form of reduced rent... is to wall > >> off the entry from the lounge, or from the first room in the set of > >> two, and give the space to AW and adjust the amount of sq. ft. we pay > >> for. > >> > >> To note: the two rooms make up 575 sq. ft. (taken from CAD drawing). > >> > >> I think if we go looking to charge an adjusted rent for these guys > >> it'll just be a waste of our time and resources and put more > >> management on our end. > >> > >> > >> > >> On 3 October 2012 16:49, Mark Campbell <nitrod...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > This is a version of the electrical plan with the dimensions needed. > >> > It's > >> > approximately 500 square feet (31*16). > >> > > >> > On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 4:46 PM, Roswyne <rosw...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> > >> >> How big is the room? It may be more cost effective for them just to > >> >> buy > >> >> SkSp memberships. > >> >> > >> >> (i.e. if the room's 10'x10', 10 of them could get SkSp memberships > for > >> >> the > >> >> same price, and simply bring in other people as guests) > >> >> > >> >> Alternately, if they're already affiliated with AW, perhaps they > could > >> >> just use the boardroom there? I don't think AW has any particular > use > >> >> for > >> >> another "office" type room. > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 4:42 PM, Mark Campbell <nitrod...@gmail.com> > >> >> wrote: > >> >>> > >> >>> Mike mentioned $4/square foot being the least expensive option for > >> >>> renting space in the exchange (not including the maintenance, > heating, > >> >>> electricity). A figure around that (not sure what the square footage > >> >>> of the > >> >>> room(s) are), if not a moderately less, would be appropriate. > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 4:37 PM, Justin Lacko <jus...@takaji.ca> > wrote: > >> >>>> > >> >>>> Negligible... I mean how much could we charge them in reality? We'd > >> >>>> have to provide electrical to the room, and finish it... that's not > >> >>>> thinking about renovations for access control (if we deem it > >> >>>> necessary). It'd be much easier and save us more money in the long > >> >>>> run > >> >>>> IMO to just wall it off from our side either one or two rooms, and > >> >>>> then let AW build a door into it. > >> >>>> > >> >>>> On 3 October 2012 16:34, Mark Campbell <nitrod...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> >>>> > I think it's a worthwhile venture, yes. At least with this > >> >>>> > renovation, > >> >>>> > there's a return on investment. > >> >>>> > > >> >>>> > On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 4:30 PM, Justin Lacko <jus...@takaji.ca> > >> >>>> > wrote: > >> >>>> >> > >> >>>> >> Creating a hallway would make our lounge even smaller and I'm > sure > >> >>>> >> we'd have to make it extra wide to follow any kind of code - it > >> >>>> >> would > >> >>>> >> take a significant portion out of our space - and do you really > >> >>>> >> want > >> >>>> >> to start even *more* renovations for SkSp?? > >> >>>> >> > >> >>>> >> On 3 October 2012 16:27, Mark Campbell <nitrod...@gmail.com> > >> >>>> >> wrote: > >> >>>> >> > That actually sounds like a great idea. It's a perfect > >> >>>> >> > opportunity > >> >>>> >> > to > >> >>>> >> > renovate the rooms in a nice way. Creating a hallway between > the > >> >>>> >> > main > >> >>>> >> > hallway and the backroom shouldn't pose any problem at that > >> >>>> >> > point. > >> >>>> >> > > >> >>>> >> > > >> >>>> >> > On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 4:24 PM, Justin Lacko < > jus...@takaji.ca> > >> >>>> >> > wrote: > >> >>>> >> >> > >> >>>> >> >> Mark, > >> >>>> >> >> > >> >>>> >> >> The savings would be the same... we'd pay less for our lease > >> >>>> >> >> because > >> >>>> >> >> of less floor space. We'd also not need to worry about > >> >>>> >> >> providing > >> >>>> >> >> them > >> >>>> >> >> with power. > >> >>>> >> >> > >> >>>> >> >> If you wanna go the other way, we'd have to > administrate/manage > >> >>>> >> >> the > >> >>>> >> >> rented space, provide power/finished walls/a certain degree > of > >> >>>> >> >> tenant > >> >>>> >> >> requirements, determine a price for power, as well as debate > >> >>>> >> >> access > >> >>>> >> >> control since they'd be going through SkSp to get to the > rooms. > >> >>>> >> >> > >> >>>> >> >> On 3 October 2012 16:19, Mark Campbell <nitrod...@gmail.com> > >> >>>> >> >> wrote: > >> >>>> >> >> > Justin, from your mention of repartitioning the space so > that > >> >>>> >> >> > AW > >> >>>> >> >> > has > >> >>>> >> >> > more, I > >> >>>> >> >> > do not agree with this -- I was originally thinking that we > >> >>>> >> >> > could > >> >>>> >> >> > make a > >> >>>> >> >> > significant profit from leasing space to RU -- that is, we > >> >>>> >> >> > charge > >> >>>> >> >> > them > >> >>>> >> >> > more > >> >>>> >> >> > $$ per square foot than we pay on our current lease. > >> >>>> >> >> > > >> >>>> >> >> > > >> >>>> >> >> > On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 4:11 PM, Ron <r...@skullsecurity.net > > > >> >>>> >> >> > wrote: > >> >>>> >> >> >> > >> >>>> >> >> >> Depending on what they need, they can just become sksp > >> >>>> >> >> >> members > >> >>>> >> >> >> then > >> >>>> >> >> >> use > >> >>>> >> >> >> the space as they wish :) > >> >>>> >> >> >> > >> >>>> >> >> >> Ron > >> >>>> >> >> >> > >> >>>> >> >> >> On 2012-10-03 14:41, Justin Lacko wrote: > >> >>>> >> >> >> > Something that came up at yesterday's meeting that I > >> >>>> >> >> >> > believe > >> >>>> >> >> >> > may > >> >>>> >> >> >> > warrant further discussion: > >> >>>> >> >> >> > > >> >>>> >> >> >> > Does anybody like the idea of SkullSpace renting out > some > >> >>>> >> >> >> > of > >> >>>> >> >> >> > their > >> >>>> >> >> >> > space to Ramp Up Manitoba? > >> >>>> >> >> >> > > >> >>>> >> >> >> > This is a small group that recently merged with > >> >>>> >> >> >> > AssentWorks, > >> >>>> >> >> >> > and > >> >>>> >> >> >> > they > >> >>>> >> >> >> > are looking for space. We could rent the two back rooms > to > >> >>>> >> >> >> > them > >> >>>> >> >> >> > and > >> >>>> >> >> >> > help decrease our operating cost (which is slated to go > >> >>>> >> >> >> > up, > >> >>>> >> >> >> > btw). > >> >>>> >> >> >> > We > >> >>>> >> >> >> > have a lot of space - it's just an idea. > >> >>>> >> >> >> > > >> >>>> >> >> >> > Let's hear comments for/against! > >> >>>> >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ > >> >>>> >> >> >> > SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List > >> >>>> >> >> >> > Help: > >> >>>> >> >> >> > > >> >>>> >> >> >> > > http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss > >> >>>> >> >> >> > Archive: > >> >>>> >> >> >> > > >> >>>> >> >> >> > > https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ > >> >>>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ > >> >>>> >> >> >> SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List > >> >>>> >> >> >> Help: > >> >>>> >> >> >> > http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss > >> >>>> >> >> >> Archive: > >> >>>> >> >> >> > https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ > >> >>>> >> >> > > >> >>>> >> >> > > >> >>>> >> >> > > >> >>>> >> >> > _______________________________________________ > >> >>>> >> >> > SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List > >> >>>> >> >> > Help: > >> >>>> >> >> > > http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss > >> >>>> >> >> > Archive: > >> >>>> >> >> > > https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ > >> >>>> >> >> _______________________________________________ > >> >>>> >> >> SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List > >> >>>> >> >> Help: > >> >>>> >> >> http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss > >> >>>> >> >> Archive: > >> >>>> >> >> https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ > >> >>>> >> > > >> >>>> >> > > >> >>>> >> > > >> >>>> >> > _______________________________________________ > >> >>>> >> > SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List > >> >>>> >> > Help: > >> >>>> >> > http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss > >> >>>> >> > Archive: > >> >>>> >> > https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ > >> >>>> >> _______________________________________________ > >> >>>> >> SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List > >> >>>> >> Help: > http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss > >> >>>> >> Archive: > >> >>>> >> https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ > >> >>>> > > >> >>>> > > >> >>>> > > >> >>>> > _______________________________________________ > >> >>>> > SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List > >> >>>> > Help: > http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss > >> >>>> > Archive: > >> >>>> > https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ > >> >>>> _______________________________________________ > >> >>>> SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List > >> >>>> Help: http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss > >> >>>> Archive: > https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> _______________________________________________ > >> >>> SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List > >> >>> Help: http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss > >> >>> Archive: > https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ > >> >> SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List > >> >> Help: http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss > >> >> Archive: https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List > >> > Help: http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss > >> > Archive: https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ > >> _______________________________________________ > >> SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List > >> Help: http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss > >> Archive: https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List > > Help: http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss > > Archive: https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ > _______________________________________________ > SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List > Help: http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss > Archive: https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ >
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