Yeah, it’s worth noting that the entirety of the back rooms will only get us
$280, but that’s a guaranteed amount for the length of our lease.
That number is worth seven members joining. If we can convince seven members to
join because of the existence of those back rooms, we’d be foolish to get rid
of them.
I do think it’s time we got some good charts showing when people left and when
they joined, mapped to different events that happened. Things like the
renovations, and the electrical being taken offline, and the cooler weather,
and stuff like that.
So far, it’s been nearly impossible to gauge membership levels. We’ve been
doing some good things, though, and it’s yet to be seen what will come of
things like JimCon or such.
From: chris kluka
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2012 1:17 AM
To: discuss@lists.skullspace.ca
Subject: Re: [SkullSpace-Discuss] Lease Numbers
My gut feeling is that we should be trying to increase revenue, membership
levels, and other forms of income.
The numbers on the "cash-out" part of that PDF don't seem like they can really
get any lower. We are really not paying very much for the services we are
receiving.
On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 1:15 AM, Michael Kozakewich
<mkozakew...@icosidodecahedron.com> wrote:
I'd trust your numbers more. Mine were just taking yours and adding some
estimates.
What I did do, though, is give numbers for selling the back rooms (at least
the two that made up the war room and the old elevator room) which amounted to
$200 or $280 (if we also got rid of the wood-working room). We could also
estimate keeping that $80 room and charging a couple members $100 for pieces of
it.
These numbers would adjust our income by a few hundred, which is enough to
bring us into usable levels again. If that large company donation goes through,
there go all our immediate worries.
-----Original Message----- From: Mark Jenkins
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2012 1:04 AM
To: discuss@lists.skullspace.ca
Subject: Re: [SkullSpace-Discuss] Lease Numbers
Here my latest crunch:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/16487130/skullspace_budget.pdf
Though I haven't looked super closely at what you've posted Micheal to
find any differences.
Changes since my last post of this:
* $83 per month "welcome back" fee, $3000 over 3 years added
* Removed common area electric rebate (cash in) and equal amount
electricity expense cash out, as we'll no longer be directly involved in
that flow of cash in and out
* Adding $60 per month for banking fees
* Adding $150 per month for insurance
There's a good chance the rent for this "unfinished" space of ours will
turn into a "finished" space rent some day (such as 3 years) and we'll
want to move to another place with low "unfinished" rents. As such,
we'll need to need to save some cash not only for moving expenses, but
for basic necessary enhancements at the next place -- either that or as
a better stabilization fund to help us stay here even longer. So, I've
put most of the surplus into "savings for future digs" and $0 per month
into discretionary.
I considered the Sniknej plan to be viable before when there was a
larger surplus, but with these changes I no longer see it that way.
I also forgot to include the water bill in here, another oops.... not
putting in the time to fix... probably $30 per month or something.
I will leave it to others to adjust these numbers to reflect proposed
re-allocations of space. Such adjustments would entail reduced rent and
heat and somewhat reduced electricity (I think not much given our low
current use). One should also guess how much we'll have to spend on
subdivision specific renovations when doing this.
As for "enhancement" style renovations (anything not called for by
subdivision work, e.g. making a room more useful), I wouldn't even
suggest trying to imagine those being funded out of reserves or
operational revenues into loans anymore -- enhancement style renovations
are going to require strait up targeted fundraising and nothing more.
I don't expect to take any more shots at cash flow projections for
awhile, if anyone else wants to take a shot, here's my ods and xls:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/16487130/skullspace_budget.ods
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/16487130/skullspace_budget.xls
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