Richard says we're using 2.4 kWh/h right now. The going price is around 7.5 cents/kWh, which works out to $130/month at our current burn rate.
Does that make sense with the numbers we have? Ron On 2013-06-11 13:40, David Stewart wrote: > I'll bring in the killawatt type device tonight if anyone wants to help map > power after the meeting I can stick around for a bit. Only need one or two > people. I think if there are numbers for specific machines that people > want they should bring them up at the meeting. > > > Cheers, > *Connected by Motorola* > > > Ian Trump <itr...@octopitech.com> wrote: > > Folks, > > > > Let me bring you up to speed. In our first couple of months of occupancy we > ran the drink machine sparingly due to the electrical constraints. We have > since began running it 24/7. We added the 3-D printer which does not run > very much at all, but does use some electricity (it heats up plastic stuff) > we added cameras, security system, etc. We have hosted a lot of events at > the Space which is great and we have taken to start using the Air > Conditioning and some new (and skull-o-tron) video game consols have shown > up in the sapce. All wonderful stuff that contributes to the vibrancy of a > hacker space. We recived estimated (bassed on past use) bills for the last > couple of months, then our meter was inspected. > > > > Chaos & Terror. > > > > I'm all for dilligence in turning off lights and thigns that do not need to > be on 24/7 (like our beloved drink machine). Servers present an issue which > I think we need to address on a cost recovery basis and I'll need help on > figureing out what that looks like. Bottom line is our Infrastructure costs > money to run, no big suprise there. > > > > So we have 41 members (roughly) if folks can donate a little bit more $10 > to $20 in the next two months we can clear off our Electrical bill and > manage it as best we can. If folks can make an effort to up their monthly > contributions from 40.00 to 50.00 dollars this will go along way in making > the space viable. PAD forms for the adjustment are available, just make re > you indicate change, atatching a voided check is always a good idea to > ensure it's the right account. > > > > Again, and it seems like I am a broken record for saying this: Recruit, > Recruit, Recruit. Our only source of reliable income is member ship dues. > Wehave a cusion and we have members with deep pockets, we will get through > this minor crisis if we put our creative minds togther and reach down and > find a little bit more cash, untill we have enough members to sustain our > organization. > > > > As a board were going to look at the 1800 dollars of insurance we need for > the space and see if we can either reduce it, or smooth it our over monthly > payments, that makes it a little bit more reasonable to absorb. > > > > Let's keep the lights on and the drinks cold by working together. > > > > Ian > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* discuss-boun...@lists.skullspace.ca on behalf of Adam Thompson > *Sent:* June-11-13 13:00 > *To:* discuss@lists.skullspace.ca > *Subject:* Re: [SkullSpace-Discuss] [SkullSpace-Announce] Today's meeting > > > We can use the readings off the hydro meter ourselves. Nothing prevents us > from taking a reading every day and projecting what our bill is going to > me… this is trivial data to massage, but it does have to be collected > manually. > > The meter reading will be denominated in kWh or something similar; it will > be a linear, constant scale and if necessary we can ask Hydro how to > interpret the reading. > > The function of a kill-a-watt is to provide more precise information that > the utility meter gives us, but the same results can be obtained by > creating a controlled test environment and measuring over a sufficiently > long time period – ideally, several hours. > > > > -Adam Thompson > > athom...@athompso.net > > > > > > *From:* discuss-boun...@lists.skullspace.ca [mailto: > discuss-boun...@lists.skullspace.ca] *On Behalf Of *Roswyne > *Sent:* Tuesday, June 11, 2013 12:57 PM > *To:* Skull Space Discussion List > *Subject:* Re: [SkullSpace-Discuss] [SkullSpace-Announce] Today's meeting > > > > Can we call in the readings ourselves to get a more accurate picture of our > real power usage? If we are billed monthly, a self-reading would be better > than an estimate. > > Would you like me to pick up a kill-a-watt (at my own expense) to hook up > to the drink machine? > > Maybe we could set the drink machine to cool the drinks less. Generally the > greater the temperature difference you want to create, the more inefficient > it is. Having the drinks a couple of degrees less cold could make a > significant difference. > > On Jun 11, 2013 11:59 AM, "Ron" <r...@skullsecurity.net> wrote: > > They only read our bill every 3 or 4 months. We can't afford another > $850 bill. If that happens, we're basically dead. > > The fun of running at a deficit. :) > > Ron > > On 2013-06-11 11:54, Justin Lacko wrote: > > For the amount of time the sound system is used, I don't think we need to > > monitor it. The monitoring is more helpful for stuff that is always on. > > > > Mak/Ron: The easier method for instant savings may just be to make the > > changes now and see what our next bill looks like. Reducing the drink > > machine's uptime to 30% of its current uptime would result in a noticeable > > savings. Furthermore, as Adrian once mentioned, we could look into putting > > more insulation inside the panels of the machine, so the compressor > > wouldn't have to kick in so often. > > > > > > On 11 June 2013 11:49, Ace Tunes <aceoftu...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > Probably 1am to 10 am would be better, give it time to cool down by > noon. > > > > > > How much are power meters (the kind that you put between power source > and > > > device) maybe we should start monitoring new equipment (for a month) as > it > > > comes into the space. For example the new and, may I say, amazing sound > > > system. > > > On 2013-06-11 11:38 AM, "Justin Lacko" <jus...@takaji.ca> wrote: > > > > > >> Quick suggestions: Somebody bring in/buy an electronic timer. They're > > >> like $30 at Ukrainian Tire. Put the drink machine on there, and set the > > >> power cycle to be off during the weekdays from 1AM to noon. Put 2-3 > cans of > > >> each type of drink in the fridge to offset the chance of someone > > >> complaining of being there during the off times and not being able to > enjoy > > >> a cold drink. > > >> > > >> Long ago I took out 1/2 the fluorescent bulbs over the lounge; we could > > >> consider doing that for the back part of the classroom. > > >> > > >> I don't know the current state of the server area but we could see if > we > > >> could move any extra machines onto the VM server or whatever. > > >> > > >> Other than that, we already turn off everything when we leave so I'm > not > > >> sure where else we may find power savings. > > >> > > >> > > >> On 11 June 2013 11:02, Ron <r...@skullsecurity.net> wrote: > > >> > > >>> Hey everybody, > > >>> > > >>> Today's meeting is 6pm at SkullSpace (374 Donald), as usual. The > summary > > >>> of today's meeting is: we just got two large bills (insurance and > > >>> electrical) and, while we can afford them, big bills while running at > a > > >>> deficit = bad. So we need to come up with ways to get more money and > > >>> members! We also need to find a way to use less power. > > >>> > > >>> Here are some topics: > > >>> - Electrical usage/bills > > >>> - Fundraising plans > > >>> - SkullCamp > > >>> - Anti-social > > >>> - Magic the Gathering > > >>> - Anything else? > > >>> - Thoughts on how we can raise some extra money/members > > >>> - Referral deal if somebody brings in a new member? > > >>> - Anybody have other ideas? > > >>> - BSides Winnipeg call for presentations > > >>> > > >>> And I think that's it! If you have other topics, please bring them to > > >>> the meeting and we'll definitely make time! > > >>> > > >>> Ron > > >>> _______________________________________________ > > >>> SkullSpace Announce Mailing List > > >>> Help: http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Announce > > >>> Archive: https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-announce-archive/ > > >>> > > >> > > >> > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List > > >> Help: http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss > > >> Archive: https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ > > >> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List > > > Help: http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss > > > Archive: https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List > > Help: http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss > > Archive: https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ > > _______________________________________________ > SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List > Help: http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss > Archive: https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ > _______________________________________________ > SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List > Help: http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss > Archive: https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ _______________________________________________ SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List Help: http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss Archive: https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/
