Seems low for what we got handed from hydro. Sent from my iPhone
On 2013-06-11, at 15:55, "Ron" <r...@skullsecurity.net> wrote: > Richard says we're using 2.4 kWh/h right now. The going price is around > 7.5 cents/kWh, which works out to $130/month at our current burn rate. > > Does that make sense with the numbers we have? > > Ron > > On 2013-06-11 13:40, David Stewart wrote: >> I'll bring in the killawatt type device tonight if anyone wants to help map >> power after the meeting I can stick around for a bit. Only need one or two >> people. I think if there are numbers for specific machines that people >> want they should bring them up at the meeting. >> >> >> Cheers, >> *Connected by Motorola* >> >> >> Ian Trump <itr...@octopitech.com> wrote: >> >> Folks, >> >> >> >> Let me bring you up to speed. In our first couple of months of occupancy we >> ran the drink machine sparingly due to the electrical constraints. We have >> since began running it 24/7. We added the 3-D printer which does not run >> very much at all, but does use some electricity (it heats up plastic stuff) >> we added cameras, security system, etc. We have hosted a lot of events at >> the Space which is great and we have taken to start using the Air >> Conditioning and some new (and skull-o-tron) video game consols have shown >> up in the sapce. All wonderful stuff that contributes to the vibrancy of a >> hacker space. We recived estimated (bassed on past use) bills for the last >> couple of months, then our meter was inspected. >> >> >> >> Chaos & Terror. >> >> >> >> I'm all for dilligence in turning off lights and thigns that do not need to >> be on 24/7 (like our beloved drink machine). Servers present an issue which >> I think we need to address on a cost recovery basis and I'll need help on >> figureing out what that looks like. Bottom line is our Infrastructure costs >> money to run, no big suprise there. >> >> >> >> So we have 41 members (roughly) if folks can donate a little bit more $10 >> to $20 in the next two months we can clear off our Electrical bill and >> manage it as best we can. If folks can make an effort to up their monthly >> contributions from 40.00 to 50.00 dollars this will go along way in making >> the space viable. PAD forms for the adjustment are available, just make re >> you indicate change, atatching a voided check is always a good idea to >> ensure it's the right account. >> >> >> >> Again, and it seems like I am a broken record for saying this: Recruit, >> Recruit, Recruit. Our only source of reliable income is member ship dues. >> Wehave a cusion and we have members with deep pockets, we will get through >> this minor crisis if we put our creative minds togther and reach down and >> find a little bit more cash, untill we have enough members to sustain our >> organization. >> >> >> >> As a board were going to look at the 1800 dollars of insurance we need for >> the space and see if we can either reduce it, or smooth it our over monthly >> payments, that makes it a little bit more reasonable to absorb. >> >> >> >> Let's keep the lights on and the drinks cold by working together. >> >> >> >> Ian >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> *From:* discuss-boun...@lists.skullspace.ca on behalf of Adam Thompson >> *Sent:* June-11-13 13:00 >> *To:* discuss@lists.skullspace.ca >> *Subject:* Re: [SkullSpace-Discuss] [SkullSpace-Announce] Today's meeting >> >> >> We can use the readings off the hydro meter ourselves. Nothing prevents us >> from taking a reading every day and projecting what our bill is going to >> me… this is trivial data to massage, but it does have to be collected >> manually. >> >> The meter reading will be denominated in kWh or something similar; it will >> be a linear, constant scale and if necessary we can ask Hydro how to >> interpret the reading. >> >> The function of a kill-a-watt is to provide more precise information that >> the utility meter gives us, but the same results can be obtained by >> creating a controlled test environment and measuring over a sufficiently >> long time period – ideally, several hours. >> >> >> >> -Adam Thompson >> >> athom...@athompso.net >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* discuss-boun...@lists.skullspace.ca [mailto: >> discuss-boun...@lists.skullspace.ca] *On Behalf Of *Roswyne >> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 11, 2013 12:57 PM >> *To:* Skull Space Discussion List >> *Subject:* Re: [SkullSpace-Discuss] [SkullSpace-Announce] Today's meeting >> >> >> >> Can we call in the readings ourselves to get a more accurate picture of our >> real power usage? If we are billed monthly, a self-reading would be better >> than an estimate. >> >> Would you like me to pick up a kill-a-watt (at my own expense) to hook up >> to the drink machine? >> >> Maybe we could set the drink machine to cool the drinks less. Generally the >> greater the temperature difference you want to create, the more inefficient >> it is. Having the drinks a couple of degrees less cold could make a >> significant difference. >> >> On Jun 11, 2013 11:59 AM, "Ron" <r...@skullsecurity.net> wrote: >> >> They only read our bill every 3 or 4 months. We can't afford another >> $850 bill. If that happens, we're basically dead. >> >> The fun of running at a deficit. :) >> >> Ron >> >> On 2013-06-11 11:54, Justin Lacko wrote: >>> For the amount of time the sound system is used, I don't think we need to >>> monitor it. The monitoring is more helpful for stuff that is always on. >>> >>> Mak/Ron: The easier method for instant savings may just be to make the >>> changes now and see what our next bill looks like. Reducing the drink >>> machine's uptime to 30% of its current uptime would result in a noticeable >>> savings. Furthermore, as Adrian once mentioned, we could look into putting >>> more insulation inside the panels of the machine, so the compressor >>> wouldn't have to kick in so often. >>> >>> >>> On 11 June 2013 11:49, Ace Tunes <aceoftu...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Probably 1am to 10 am would be better, give it time to cool down by >> noon. >>>> >>>> How much are power meters (the kind that you put between power source >> and >>>> device) maybe we should start monitoring new equipment (for a month) as >> it >>>> comes into the space. For example the new and, may I say, amazing sound >>>> system. >>>> On 2013-06-11 11:38 AM, "Justin Lacko" <jus...@takaji.ca> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Quick suggestions: Somebody bring in/buy an electronic timer. They're >>>>> like $30 at Ukrainian Tire. Put the drink machine on there, and set the >>>>> power cycle to be off during the weekdays from 1AM to noon. Put 2-3 >> cans of >>>>> each type of drink in the fridge to offset the chance of someone >>>>> complaining of being there during the off times and not being able to >> enjoy >>>>> a cold drink. >>>>> >>>>> Long ago I took out 1/2 the fluorescent bulbs over the lounge; we could >>>>> consider doing that for the back part of the classroom. >>>>> >>>>> I don't know the current state of the server area but we could see if >> we >>>>> could move any extra machines onto the VM server or whatever. >>>>> >>>>> Other than that, we already turn off everything when we leave so I'm >> not >>>>> sure where else we may find power savings. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 11 June 2013 11:02, Ron <r...@skullsecurity.net> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hey everybody, >>>>>> >>>>>> Today's meeting is 6pm at SkullSpace (374 Donald), as usual. The >> summary >>>>>> of today's meeting is: we just got two large bills (insurance and >>>>>> electrical) and, while we can afford them, big bills while running at >> a >>>>>> deficit = bad. So we need to come up with ways to get more money and >>>>>> members! We also need to find a way to use less power. >>>>>> >>>>>> Here are some topics: >>>>>> - Electrical usage/bills >>>>>> - Fundraising plans >>>>>> - SkullCamp >>>>>> - Anti-social >>>>>> - Magic the Gathering >>>>>> - Anything else? >>>>>> - Thoughts on how we can raise some extra money/members >>>>>> - Referral deal if somebody brings in a new member? >>>>>> - Anybody have other ideas? >>>>>> - BSides Winnipeg call for presentations >>>>>> >>>>>> And I think that's it! If you have other topics, please bring them to >>>>>> the meeting and we'll definitely make time! >>>>>> >>>>>> Ron >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> SkullSpace Announce Mailing List >>>>>> Help: http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Announce >>>>>> Archive: https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-announce-archive/ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List >>>>> Help: http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss >>>>> Archive: https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List >>>> Help: http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss >>>> Archive: https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ >> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List >>> Help: http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss >>> Archive: https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List >> Help: http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss >> Archive: https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ > >> _______________________________________________ >> SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List >> Help: http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss >> Archive: https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ > > _______________________________________________ > SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List > Help: http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss > Archive: https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ _______________________________________________ SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List Help: http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss Archive: https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/
