I was also led to believe it was magic.

As for the cap, how would you go about cultivating quality members over the 
ones who were just there first? I mean, I guess old age could open new spots?

On 2013-12-25, at 12:23 AM, Alex Weber <alexw...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I'm not sure if the Vendingmiser tells us how many drinks are dispensed. I 
> think it just powers the machine off and on depending on the time of day, 
> who's around to trip the motion sensor, and some other magic.
> 
> -Alex
> 
> 
> On Tue, Dec 24, 2013 at 9:21 PM, Ian Trump <itr...@octopitech.com> wrote:
>> As per my previous emails and personal responses to inquiries. The donations 
>>  of our membership have yielded a small profit over the past months, 
>> reflected in our bank balance.
>> 
>> Drinks and food are more or less a wash. We purchased a vending miser which 
>> apparently was supposed to give use detailed information on the drink 
>> machine but I am yet to receive any information on drinks sold vs. money 
>> received.
>> 
>> I for one have privately (now public) advocated to see membership capped at 
>> 50 full members and 20 students. This has mostly been do to the capacity  of 
>> the volunteer board and my personal belief that SKSP membership should be 
>> prized and cherished. 
>> 
>> There has been little support for my ideas :)
>> 
>> I hope this clarifies the situation.
>> 
>> Ian
>> 
>>    
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On 2013-12-24, at 20:05, "Roswyne" <rosw...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Nonetheless, it would be preferable to have the remaining income needed to 
>>> meet our monthly expenses lined up in advance, at least tentatively. This 
>>> could include:
>>> * estimated profit from drink sales
>>> * projected income drone scheduled room rental
>>> * upcoming fundraising events
>>> * pledged donations
>>> 
>>> At this point in time, I don't know how we make our monthly shortfall, and 
>>> would be interested in finding out. 
>>> On Dec 23, 2013 1:24 PM, "Jeremy Hiebert" <jkhieb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> I am going to try to halt where this line of emails/thinking usually takes 
>>>> us.
>>>> 
>>>> First off, SkullSpace is doing fine. It is time that our members get 
>>>> comfortable with the idea that this non-profit of ours is not going to be 
>>>> self-sustaining through memberships. That shouldn't scare anyone though. 
>>>> 
>>>> Up until now, we were usually running ~$200 short based on memberships 
>>>> alone. I can't find a month in the last year where we did not *easily* 
>>>> make up for that in donations and food/drink sales. The rent is increasing 
>>>> in January so there will be more of  a gap to bridge.
>>>> 
>>>> SkullSpace hosts events that bring in a decent amount of money. Think of 
>>>> the social, PegJam (if that is what it was called), user group meetings. 
>>>> Once we have our OP we will definitely see an increase in attendees at 
>>>> hackathons, plus earn a decent profit on drink sales. What better way to 
>>>> attract IT than booze?
>>>> 
>>>> Really, all I am getting at is people need to stop thinking about just 
>>>> getting enough members to sustain. That hasn't happened. We basically 
>>>> plateaued as far as membership numbers go.  Quite a few hackerspaces 
>>>> operate like this, relying on donations to stay in operation.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 12:42 PM, <cstann...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> From those numbers we're losing $400-500 per month - I assume food 
>>>>> purchases and members giving above their dues helps that a little bit - 
>>>>> but we're still at the "need 10 new full members to survive in a year" 
>>>>> stage?
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
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