Not a bylaw, just a policy. #TheMoreYouKnow
On 2014-01-13 17:06, Nathan Wild wrote: > Sorry... That violates our bylaws :p > > Nathan T. Wild > On Jan 13, 2014 4:32 PM, "Justin Lacko" <jus...@takaji.ca> wrote: > > > I vote +1 for getting a SkullSpace dog :D :3 > > > > > > On 13 January 2014 22:13, Jim MacKenzie <protoj...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > >> Get a dog. It will pre-clean all dishes. And eat food left on the floor. > >> And cardboard left on the floor. > >> On Jan 13, 2014 3:12 PM, "Ace Tunes" <aceoftu...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >>> I don't get why it's so hard to wash dishes when one is done with them, > >>> even rinsing them goes a long way. > >>> On Jan 13, 2014 3:04 PM, "Roswyne" <rosw...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>> > >>>> I apologize if it sounded like I was crying doom. Last I heard, > >>>> predictable monthly income is less that predicted monthly expenses: if my > >>>> information is out of date, that's great! > >>>> > >>>> How often should we bring the service in then, and what should we have > >>>> them do? I'm not sure that we have regular volunteers for any of the > >>>> following, which should probably be done at least weekly: > >>>> > >>>> * dirty dishes > >>>> * gathering garbage and taking it to the bin (and putting new bags in > >>>> the cans) > >>>> * dealing with recyclables > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On Jan 13, 2014 2:40 PM, "Jeremy Hiebert" <jkhieb...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> We are not losing money every month. And if for some reason we are > >>>>> doing some vote on cleaning, my vote is yes. Definitely need a cleaning > >>>>> service. > >>>>> > >>>>> If someone wants to donate money to cleaning, just drop the money in > >>>>> one of the boxes. > >>>>> > >>>>> We will let you know if we are about to go broke. :) Stop calling > >>>>> dooms day. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 2:35 PM, Roswyne <rosw...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> Well, not everyone makes it to meetings regularly, and I'm not sure > >>>>>> why email wouldn't be appropriate to discuss this. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Aside from the ongoing expense, I am still concerned that people will > >>>>>> assume "that's why we pay for cleaning service", and continue leaving > >>>>>> messes at the space. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> To put it bluntly, I can wipe the toilet seat before using it if it > >>>>>> grosses me out. If we get bugs or mice from the garbage only being > >>>>>> taken > >>>>>> out once a month, that's a much bigger problem, and one which will > >>>>>> cause > >>>>>> issues with the landlord. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On Jan 13, 2014 12:50 PM, "Ron" <r...@skullsecurity.net> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> I don't think we're losing money each month. Ian or Jeremy would be > >>>>>>> better to ask, but I think in the grand scheme of things we're mostly > >>>>>>> breaking even. And cleanliness is pretty darn important to keeping a > >>>>>>> good image! > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Ron > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> On 2014-01-13 12:28, Roswyne wrote: > >>>>>>> > Ok, an informal discussion at a weekly meeting is fine: I didn't > >>>>>>> mean to > >>>>>>> > say it had to be a formal, balloted vote. > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > But if we're losing money every month, I don't think we should be > >>>>>>> taking on > >>>>>>> > such expenses... and others might agree. > >>>>>>> > On Jan 13, 2014 12:17 PM, "Ron" <r...@skullsecurity.net> wrote: > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > Expenses of that level don't require a vote per our bylaws. > >>>>>>> > > Traditionally, we usually do best-effort consensus: that is, > >>>>>>> bring it up > >>>>>>> > > in the meeting and get a rough consensus. If people are > >>>>>>> generally in > >>>>>>> > > favour or apathetic, we do it. If they're generally against it, > >>>>>>> we look > >>>>>>> > > for other options. > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> > > Ron > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> > > On 2014-01-13 01:08, Roswyne wrote: > >>>>>>> > > > Ian, when she was hired, I understood this to be an expense > >>>>>>> you were > >>>>>>> > > > personally covering, due to frequently working at the space. > >>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>> > > > Is this shifting to a SkSp expense? If so, we need to vote in > >>>>>>> it. I'm > >>>>>>> > > > against taking on additional expenses until we're actually > >>>>>>> breaking even. > >>>>>>> > > > On Jan 12, 2014 7:51 PM, "Ian Trump" <itr...@octopitech.com> > >>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > I second what Siu said. More complex financial analysis is > >>>>>>> beyond both > >>>>>>> > > > > the tools and capability of the volunteer board at present. > >>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > There is/was a membership tracking project to create a > >>>>>>> SkullSpace > >>>>>>> > > > > membership portal with administrative and accounting > >>>>>>> features - it has > >>>>>>> > > > > languished due to resource constraints. > >>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > On a more positive side, Grace Polson the cleaning woman > >>>>>>> will be > >>>>>>> > > > > attending SkullSpace tomorrow morning to begin regular > >>>>>>> monthly > >>>>>>> > > cleaning. I > >>>>>>> > > > > expect this expense to be around 100 per > >>>>>>> > > > > Month. > >>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > Ian > >>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > Sent from my iPhone > >>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > On 2014-01-12, at 19:37, "Roswyne" <rosw...@gmail.com> > >>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > Typically the requested donation for food or drink at the > >>>>>>> space is > >>>>>>> > > > > double the cost, rounded. > >>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > i.e. the average cost of canned drinks might be $0.56/can, > >>>>>>> but we > >>>>>>> > > round it > >>>>>>> > > > > up and request a dollar. > >>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > If we assume that sort of pricing, and that everyone is > >>>>>>> honest and up > >>>>>>> > > to > >>>>>>> > > > > date, then you can estimate the profit as being roughly > >>>>>>> equal to costs. > >>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > Otherwise, you'd have to take inventory regularly and > >>>>>>> strictly separate > >>>>>>> > > > > food & drink money from general donations, which I think > >>>>>>> isn't a good > >>>>>>> > > use > >>>>>>> > > > > of volunteer time. :) > >>>>>>> > > > > On Jan 12, 2014 6:07 PM, "Jeremy Hiebert" < > >>>>>>> jkhieb...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>>> > > > >> I'll need to interface with Ian and find out where we are > >>>>>>> at right > >>>>>>> > > now. > >>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>> > > > >> On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 5:57 PM, Nathan Wild < > >>>>>>> nathan.w...@gmail.com > >>>>>>> > > >wrote: > >>>>>>> > > > >> > >>>>>>> > > > >>> Thanks Jeremy! > >>>>>>> > > > >>> > >>>>>>> > > > >>> Is there a summary of intake vs expenditure available > >>>>>>> anywhere? I'd > >>>>>>> > > > >>> love to see this - particularly as we are poised to buy > >>>>>>> more stuff... > >>>>>>> > > > >>> > >>>>>>> > > > >>> If not maybe now would be a good time to take a snapshot of > >>>>>>> > > > >>> profitability, as we have nothing on-hand for snacks. > >>>>>>> > > > >>> > >>>>>>> > > > >>> Nathan T. Wild > >>>>>>> > > > >>> On Jan 12, 2014 3:12 PM, "Jeremy Hiebert" < > >>>>>>> jkhieb...@gmail.com> > >>>>>>> > > wrote: > >>>>>>> > > > >>> > >>>>>>> > > > >>>> Justin, all drink, food, and donations that are dropped > >>>>>>> in the box > >>>>>>> > > are > >>>>>>> > > > >>>> lumped under donations. We can't actually "sell" food and > >>>>>>> drink. > >>>>>>> > > Those > >>>>>>> > > > >>>> boxes are emptied weekly and yes, they are counted. > >>>>>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> > > > >>>> On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 2:58 PM, Ian Trump < > >>>>>>> itr...@octopitech.com > >>>>>>> > > >wrote: > >>>>>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>> Dish drying towels. > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>> > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>> Sent from my iPhone > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>> > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>> On 2014-01-12, at 14:07, "Alex Weber" < > >>>>>>> alexw...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>> > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>> > Hey everyone, > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>> > Nate is making a Costco run and has room for some > >>>>>>> SkullSpace > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>> shopping. What are we out of? What are we running low > >>>>>>> on? > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>> > Reply as soon as possible, please! > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>> > -Alex > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>> > _______________________________________________ > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>> > SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>> > Help: > >>>>>>> > > http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>> > Archive: > >>>>>>> > > https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>> SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>> Help: > >>>>>>> http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>> Archive: > >>>>>>> > > https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>> > >>>>>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> > > > >>>> > >>>>>>> > > > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>>> > > > >>>> 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