Managing monthly donations specifically for cleaning would be a non-trivial task, unless people just want to raise their monthly membership fees (ie, an automated donation) with the understanding that it's to help support the cleaning.
I don't think that's necessary, though. We can always use more monthly donations, of course, but we'll survive. IMO, bring this up at a meeting. That's the right forum. I don't think anybody strongly objects, it just has to be discussed is all. Ron On 2014-01-13 12:58, Ken DeWitt wrote: > Sorry but this is starting to piss me off about the complaining about not > making enough money on a month to month bases. I 100% agree it is great > that we have someone come in to help clean. To stop the complaining about > if skullspace or another user is going to cover the cleaning costs. I will > donate 20 or money a month to help cover the cleaning costs. Lets see if > there is enough of us that want to stop the money complaining and would > like to help by donating money specificly for the cleaning costs. Again I > am sorry to those if I am stepping on toes or insulting anyone. > > -- > > Any question or comments you can email or call me at any time. > I will get back to you as fast as I can. > > Thank you and have a nice day!! > > Ken DeWitt > Your Fellow Tech. Guy > > Phone # : 204-998-3218 > Email: kendewitt@y <kendew...@yourfellowtechguy.com>ftg.ca > > > On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 12:50 PM, Ron <r...@skullsecurity.net> wrote: > > > I don't think we're losing money each month. Ian or Jeremy would be > > better to ask, but I think in the grand scheme of things we're mostly > > breaking even. And cleanliness is pretty darn important to keeping a > > good image! > > > > Ron > > > > On 2014-01-13 12:28, Roswyne wrote: > > > Ok, an informal discussion at a weekly meeting is fine: I didn't mean to > > > say it had to be a formal, balloted vote. > > > > > > But if we're losing money every month, I don't think we should be taking > > on > > > such expenses... and others might agree. > > > On Jan 13, 2014 12:17 PM, "Ron" <r...@skullsecurity.net> wrote: > > > > > > > Expenses of that level don't require a vote per our bylaws. > > > > Traditionally, we usually do best-effort consensus: that is, bring it > > up > > > > in the meeting and get a rough consensus. If people are generally in > > > > favour or apathetic, we do it. If they're generally against it, we look > > > > for other options. > > > > > > > > Ron > > > > > > > > On 2014-01-13 01:08, Roswyne wrote: > > > > > Ian, when she was hired, I understood this to be an expense you were > > > > > personally covering, due to frequently working at the space. > > > > > > > > > > Is this shifting to a SkSp expense? If so, we need to vote in it. I'm > > > > > against taking on additional expenses until we're actually breaking > > even. > > > > > On Jan 12, 2014 7:51 PM, "Ian Trump" <itr...@octopitech.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > I second what Siu said. More complex financial analysis is beyond > > both > > > > > > the tools and capability of the volunteer board at present. > > > > > > > > > > > > There is/was a membership tracking project to create a SkullSpace > > > > > > membership portal with administrative and accounting features - it > > has > > > > > > languished due to resource constraints. > > > > > > > > > > > > On a more positive side, Grace Polson the cleaning woman will be > > > > > > attending SkullSpace tomorrow morning to begin regular monthly > > > > cleaning. I > > > > > > expect this expense to be around 100 per > > > > > > Month. > > > > > > > > > > > > Ian > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > > > > > > > > On 2014-01-12, at 19:37, "Roswyne" <rosw...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Typically the requested donation for food or drink at the space > > is > > > > > > double the cost, rounded. > > > > > > > > > > > > i.e. the average cost of canned drinks might be $0.56/can, but we > > > > round it > > > > > > up and request a dollar. > > > > > > > > > > > > If we assume that sort of pricing, and that everyone is honest and > > up > > > > to > > > > > > date, then you can estimate the profit as being roughly equal to > > costs. > > > > > > > > > > > > Otherwise, you'd have to take inventory regularly and strictly > > separate > > > > > > food & drink money from general donations, which I think isn't a > > good > > > > use > > > > > > of volunteer time. :) > > > > > > On Jan 12, 2014 6:07 PM, "Jeremy Hiebert" <jkhieb...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > >> I'll need to interface with Ian and find out where we are at right > > > > now. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 5:57 PM, Nathan Wild < > > nathan.w...@gmail.com > > > > >wrote: > > > > > >> > > > > > >>> Thanks Jeremy! > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> Is there a summary of intake vs expenditure available anywhere? > > I'd > > > > > >>> love to see this - particularly as we are poised to buy more > > stuff... > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> If not maybe now would be a good time to take a snapshot of > > > > > >>> profitability, as we have nothing on-hand for snacks. > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> Nathan T. Wild > > > > > >>> On Jan 12, 2014 3:12 PM, "Jeremy Hiebert" <jkhieb...@gmail.com> > > > > wrote: > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>>> Justin, all drink, food, and donations that are dropped in the > > box > > > > are > > > > > >>>> lumped under donations. We can't actually "sell" food and drink. > > > > Those > > > > > >>>> boxes are emptied weekly and yes, they are counted. > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 2:58 PM, Ian Trump < > > itr...@octopitech.com > > > > >wrote: > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>>> Dish drying towels. > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> Sent from my iPhone > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> On 2014-01-12, at 14:07, "Alex Weber" <alexw...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > Hey everyone, > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > >>>>> > Nate is making a Costco run and has room for some SkullSpace > > > > > >>>>> shopping. What are we out of? 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