David, I also use the K-9 Mail for Android. Although my only complain with it is that it doesn't respect the global "Sync". K-9 Mail is always connected regardless if sync is enabled on the device globally or not. By Sync, I mean the option you can turn on or off in the "Data usage" setting pane, "Auto sync data".
On Thu, 13 Mar 2014 18:44:44 -0500 David Curry <d...@ysarro.com> wrote: > Layman. > -- > David Michael Curry (Dave) > <d...@ysarro.com> > > On 13 March, 2014 6:38:00 PM CDT, Aemilianus Kehler <zew...@gmail.com> wrote: > >I agree with Chris. Since he went all technical, I'll go with lame man > >terms. > > > >From all my experience with both, I have never had a good experience > >with MTS... Ever!! > > > >While with shaw I have got great solid reliable connections. And when I > >went over their workmanship it was as expected cheap and fast... > >However I was able to completely rewire the setup, document and > >photograph it all.. I called customer service to complain and they > >provided apologies and a free PVR. So I love Shaw! > > > >Done > > > >Cheers!! > > > >> On Mar 12, 2014, at 7:05 PM, chris kluka <asd...@asdlkf.net> wrote: > >> > >> The simple answer is that either ISP *can* suck at times, because > >they are both huge ISP's and they both have crap service departments. > >> > >> You can get lucky and get good service from either, and you can get > >lucky and get good equipment from either, but you can't make the > >blanket generalization that shaw or mts or voi or les.net or any of the > >other ISP's in winnipeg are the best. > >> > >> Generally speaking, Shaw has a better class of internet service. They > >have more peers, and bigger pipes than anyone else. They have a larger > >installed user base, and cable (DOCSIS v3) is capable of FAR greater > >bandwidth than any class of DSL in use in the city is capable of. (if > >you order >= 100Mbps internet service from shaw, you will get a Cisco > >device, which is a 4-port NAT/router and bridge in one device. It's > >capable of up to 250Mbps, but they won't turn NAT off on this device). > >If you order shaw >= 100Mbps and want NAT turned off (you just want a > >cable modem), they will give you a Motorola DOCSIS 3.0 device instead, > >which is far superior, but requires that you purchase your own > >NAT/Router (I'd recommend the ASUS RT-56NU, as it can do almost > >1000Mbps LAN/WAN routing). > >> > >> If you order shaw < 100Mbps service, they will give you DOCSIS 2.0 > >grade equipment, which is the gear that currently has the "congestion > >in my neighbourhood" issue. If you get a DOCSIS v3 modem, you won't > >have a neighbourhood congestion issue. there are 16x as many channels > >available in DOCSIS 3.0 so yea. > >> > >> > >> > >> With MTS, either it works, or it doesn't. You will have fairly > >consistant service, but that service will be (probably) slower (raw > >throughput) and laggier (higher latancy) than shaw. > >> > >> > >> Basically, if you can get shaw, and your service is good (your > >cabling infrastructure is not damaged to the house), you will probably > >have the best experience with shaw. > >> > >> If your COAX cabling is damaged with shaw, you'll have to failover to > >MTS, unless you are too far from a distribution point (generally, only > >good to about 2 miles from one of their distribution points. Beyond 2 > >miles, you won't get more than about 10Mbps and the signal might drop > >out from time to time with the weather). > >> > >> > >> > >> Interestingly, cellular 4G internet is becoming a somewhat feasible > >alternative. We still don't have access to any kind of unlimited data > >transfer package, so if you need to do anything more than basic email > >checking and browsing the web, you will tear through your 3GB/month > >data transfer limit quite quickly; However, once plans become > >available, the cellular towers are in place in some of the city to get > >up to 35 Mbps down, 19Mbps up on rogers 4G. (tested with a Sony Experia > >Z Ultra). > >> > >> > >> > >> If you want the best possible experience, order Shaw, and order > >something from their "new" pricing tiers (i.e. 100Mbps per month), and > >get them to turn off NAT (tell them you want bridging mode *ONLY*. This > >will cause them to give you one of the new Motorola modems, with DOCSIS > >3.0 service. Then, get yourself a good router (check out > >http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/lanwan/router-charts/view for a list of > >the best performing routers). Make sure it has a high-ish LAN/WAN > >routing capability, and a high-ish number of TCP connections. > >> > >> Have Shaw install your modem as close as possible to your upstream > >tap (don't make them install it in your living room, get them to > >install it in your breaker box. Run CAT-5e or CAT-6 cable from your > >modem to your router to get your router where you want it to be. The > >length of CAT5/6 won't affect your connection at all. Extra unnecessary > >consumer-grade COAX can. > >> > >> > >> As it was mentioned by Colin Stanners, MTS gives out 2Wire routers, > >which *CAN NOT* be placed into briding mode. The only way to get around > >their forced NAT is to put another device into a DMZ. Even so, this is > >questionable. Avoid the 2Wire boxes if you can. > >> > >> > >>> On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 2:24 PM, <cstann...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>> DOCSIS vs DSL doesn't really matter when either deployment can be > >done with great or newer equipment or 10-year old or crappy equipment. > >Not to mention network design differences... > >>> > >>> MTS provides questionably reliable 2wire routers with their VDSL2 > >service which will never let you get a real IP on a good router, so I > >recommend never using their service unless you get the old (under > >7mbit?) DSL and use your own router. > >>> > >>> > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: Kevin <m...@iamkevin.ca> > >>> Sender: discuss-bounces@lists.skullspace.caDate: Wed, 12 Mar 2014 > >14:12:50 > >>> To: <discuss@lists.skullspace.ca> > >>> Reply-To: discuss@lists.skullspace.ca > >>> Subject: [SkullSpace-Discuss] ISP Preferences: Shaw vs MTS > >>> > >>> Hello everyone, > >>> > >>> I am sorry to bring up such a nonsensical ISP battle thread here, > >but > >>> lately the MTS connection I've been using where I am living. My > >>> landlord is nice enough to pay for the Internet and include it in > >the > >>> rent, so I really can't switch over even if I wanted to... > >>> > >>> When I normally have the choice of ISP, I normally go with Shaw > >>> Cablesystems. To me it personally makes more sense that a coaxial > >>> cable can carry bandwidth better than a twisted pair. Not entirely > >>> sure how true that statement is, but to me, it seems right. > >Whenever I > >>> had Shaw, I never had to deal with broken connections, lag, and > >other > >>> nonsense that I've been struggling with over the past weeks. There > >are > >>> actually times where I just stop using the MTS connection and tether > >>> through my smartphone to get a more reliable connection. I find > >that > >>> odd, that a cellular network connection is more reliable than a > >>> landline connection. > >>> > >>> A few examples of issues I've been experiencing lately on MTS: > >broken > >>> SSH connections, webpages sometimes just don't load at all, and the > >>> connection breaks so badly that my plasma Gmail widget crashes my > >>> entire desktop. I'm still on an older version of KDE4, so I assume > >>> when a connection breaks on newer version, it won't bring down all > >of > >>> plasma. > >>> > >>> Anyways, when I was on Shaw, or even my Telus cellular connection, > >I > >>> don't experience all of these headaches mentioned above. I want to > >>> know if you had any similar experiences with any of the local ISPs. > >>> > >>> I also wouldn't mind a nice break down on each service in terms of > >>> how one can potentially be more reliable than the other. I've heard > >>> some interesting things about ADSL and how someone in the > >neighborhood > >>> can basically slow down the entire area, and heard that with > >>> Cablesystems this isn't the case, and it's more of how far you are > >from > >>> the so-called "head office". I'd rather get some proper education > >on > >>> how both of these systems work, rather than relying on possible > >>> misinformation I learned before. > >>> > >>> An interesting thought for a class to be held at the space, would > >be > >>> education on how ISP works in general, and compare ADSL to Cable > >>> without all the marketing bullshit. I am sure there are people at > >this > >>> space whom work for either MTS or Shaw, and having them at such a > >>> presentation would be a nice idea, perhaps both to get a better > >>> perspective. > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Kevin <m...@iamkevin.ca> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List > >>> Help: http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss > >>> Archive: https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List > >>> Help: http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss > >>> Archive: https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List > >> Help: http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss > >> Archive: https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ > > > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > >_______________________________________________ > >SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List > >Help: http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss > >Archive: https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ -- Kevin <m...@iamkevin.ca> _______________________________________________ SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List Help: http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss Archive: https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/
