"If all groups using the space for meetings threw some money in, that'd help a lot. (I would hope for a higher donation for longer, and more formal events than for casual get-togethers.)"
That comes back to the money/people thing Mark was talking about. If we can get a couple new members each year from each group that uses our space, that's $1000/group/year. More than we could ever charge. Plus, the activity is a draw and is useful for everyone! On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 11:55 AM, Roswyne <[email protected]> wrote: > I must admit, I was very favorably impressed by the effort you and Sara > put into the programming workshop. > > You were there early every week, and set up not only the tables and chairs > in the classroom in an appropriate layout, but also set up whole computer > stations for people who couldn't bring a laptop. And you always put > everything away, even when I thought it could have been left out for the > duration of the course (based on another class that was held at SkSp1). > > I'm very pleased to hear that a portion of the fees were paid to SkSp as a > thank-you for using the space. If all groups using the space for meetings > threw some money in, that'd help a lot. (I would hope for a higher donation > for longer, and more formal events than for casual get-togethers.) > > > > > On May 2, 2014 1:23 PM, "Mark Jenkins" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> It just takes a bit of time. >>> >> >> This in a nutshell is what sustaining the space will always come down to. >> >> If all we ever gave to the space was our money and never our time, there >> would eventually be a collapse as too many people reached the conclusion of >> "why should I pay money to access a space full of stuff". >> >> Be it explicit volunteer time you could put on a resume or just hanging >> out and being awesome, you're contributing to the space. There are many, >> many ways to contribute your time. Hopefully the sell enough gift cards to >> make the time put in by people set up worthwhile (vs them putting their >> time elsewhere) >> >> The real hard trick we all have to play on each other is the >> meta-volunteering of getting other people to put in their time. We don't >> have a staff of volunteer/programming co-ordinators! >> >> Sometimes that means explicitly asking people to take their time to do >> something, sometimes it means creating fun opportunities for other people >> to make awesomeness without them even knowing they're actually "creating >> community". >> >> I for one am always willing to give talks -- but I need other folks to >> push me to commit to a topic and date and to do the marketing. >> (I have noticed that formal programming that receives an executive push >> is more often well attended.) >> >> Somebody please force me to give a long promised talk our about VM server >> or Ripple in June. Ripple may be particular pertinent at this time, I think >> its a technology that could offer Skullspace and the Skullspace community >> some benifits of increased financial efficiency (no get rich pitch) -- I'd >> love to have the opportunity to explain this to an audience and even do >> some follow-on software development to support some additional use-cases >> that would help us if I knew there was interest. >> >> >> If anyone is entertaining the paid workshop idea, I'd suggest the same >> revenue model Sara Arenson went with -- presenter directly charges their >> attendees for taking their course/workshop and pays a rent to Skullspace. >> (I think did $15 a night?). This approach puts positive incentives in both >> the hands of presenter and the space. >> >> Maybe, one day I'll do a paid python boot camp for existing programmers >> or maybe in the very distant future full LPIC (https://www.lpi.org/linux- >> certifications) course. (should get my LPIC-1 first!) >> >> >> Mark >> _______________________________________________ >> SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List >> Help: http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss >> Archive: https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ >> > > _______________________________________________ > SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List > Help: http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss > Archive: https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ >
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