Quoting Johan Hübner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > kdf wrote: > > Quoting Johan Hübner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > > >>kdf wrote: > >> > >>>There was a recent ruling in Europe (not sure if it was EU-wide) that has > >>>decided that copying from one format to another was illegal. This means, > >> > >>if > >> > >>>you buy a CD, you can only EVER copy it to another CD. > >> > >>being a european lawyer I have not heard of that ruling, but I can > >>assure you that it is not EU-wide. If you have a URL I would be > >>delighted. I wouldn't be surprised if it was to be overturned if it was > >>referred to the European Cour of Justice. ' > > > > > > thanks johan. I really was going on memory, so I'll trust your information > over > > mine. All I can really go on at this point in thank goodness for canadian > > socialism. We get raped with blank media fees, but at least we can > actually > > consider media that we purchase as 'owned', which is good considering that > all > > the advertising says "own it today". I think this could be a big class > action > > if we took this and interpreted it based on US laws. > > > > sad thing is, this is only the beginning for a group of people who > obviously > > feel some lack of value in their lives. > > > > canadian beef unsafe???? give me a freaking break > > > > Well - your canadian socialism is probably rather slack compared to our > swedisg :-). But something that needs to be remembered is that blank > media charges (which are being introduced EU-wide, but embedded in the > price of the media rather than added on-top at the time of the purchase > which is the canadian method) is to compensate the copyright holders for > legal copying, ie fair use (US & Ca) and statutory private copying (EU). > It is quite often journalists muddle this up as being a charge to > compensate for illegal copying. ) yeah, we're all too busy legalising pot and getting hockey back to worry about such things :) Still, the levy applied to CD's DVD's etc is not so bad. I can still purchase a spindle of 100 DVD for $59 CDN. it was worrying when they considered charging for media that would be used in cameras, and for HD's that were just being purchased for pc's. Then again, I guess our artists are perhaps used to being poor (unless they file for US citizenship0 > > But - as I said - copyright is as hot as ever in the European legal > society and many believe it can help them walk on water in court > proceedings. I wish we could sometime get back to the intention of > copyright in the first place - top go give authors and other creators a > fair compensation for their contribution to arts and culture and to give > them a economic incentive to continue creating. > > Personally I believe that copyright-enforcement is turning into a farce > in the US and in EU.
as a person who has to perform daily in order to meet demands, I just cant ever support a 'royalty' sytem. as an engineer, anyting I come up with as an ida while I'm with my current compant is owned by that company. why should I feel sympathy for an artist who signs on with a label? my feelings on p2p, is that its the same as it always was. We always traded mix tapes. some of us made them just to pass on in hopes of getting laid (come on, admit it). Computers and the digital age have mad so many things faster and easier, so why not "tape trading" why should the "industry" be able to say that they alone have the right to benefit from the improvements in technology? -kdf _______________________________________________ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
