Why on earth would Slim give a damn if Slim server was included in mainline
Linux distributions?  Do you really think that the inclusion of Slim Server
software is going to sell extra Squeezeboxes?

Actually there is no reason Slim Server cannot be included in a core
distribution as it is, they do not include LAME in the basic configuration,
it's up to the user to install and configure LAME.  If the streaming is all
done by PCM/WAV or FLAC then there are no patents involved.

All of which doesn't shed any light on why they should implement Ogg support
in firwmare. 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
> Michael Peters
> Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 2:40 PM
> To: Slim Devices Discussion
> Subject: Re: [slim] OGG VORBIS Support in Firmware
> 
> On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 22:31:06 +0100, Christian Pernegger 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > 
> > Wait a minute, didn't you just bash mp3 halfway around the list 
> > because it was patent encumbered? Yet you consider AAC? I 
> just don't get you...
> 
> I didn't bash mp3.
> It is a very good lossy codec.
> mp3 (and aac) will never be in the mainline Fedora 
> distribution because they do require licenses to distribute 
> encoders/decoders for.
> 
> I use patented software, no doubt about it - but I don't 
> expect it to be in the distribution, I get that elsewhere and 
> install it myself.
> 
> AAC is a very nice encoding format, probably better than ogg 
> (I haven't done any listening tests, but I was very impressed 
> with 128kbps encodes from iTunes/QuickTime)
> 
> I'm not bashing mp3 for patent issues, I am stating point 
> blank that the patent issues are in fact a problem for 
> SlimServer ever being included in Fedora/Red Hat mainline 
> distribution - unless their also is a lossy choice that 
> doesn't have the patent issues (and that's ogg)
> 
> I personally wouldn't mind paying for Fedora for it to come 
> with mp3 support - I'm not against a technology just because 
> their are patents.
> 
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