radish Wrote: 
> It is simply impossible (IMNSHO) to make a CD which will play in a
> regular CD player but which cannot be ripped.
Sort of true.

Any CD which needs to be able to be playable in a standard audio CD
must have a red book compliant first session. Many copy-protected CDs
use the simple expedient of having a second data session which is what
the CDROM drive sees. This is trivially defeated by using a CDROM drive
which has an option to ignore multi-session (eg. many of the Plextor
range).

But there is another, far more sinister form of copy protection. In
this, the audio session on the disc is deliberately scattered with
uncorrectable errors, and relies on the audio CD player's error
concealment (via interpolation) to produce an acceptable playback. The
overwhelming majority of CDROM drives either do not perform error
concealment, or do so poorly. The upshot of this is that you have to
rip the CD in a mode that doesn't detect the errors (eg. EAC burst
mode), and you end up with a rip that has many short digital glitches.

The only method I have found for successfully ripping these CDs is to
play them on an audio CD player and record the SPDIF output in real
time using a soundcard with a non-resampling SPDIF input. And of course
this technique will work with *any* CD, no matter what "copy protection"
technology it uses. The bottom line is: if you can listen to it, you can
record it.


-- 
cliveb
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