I have frequented a number of websites and forums discussing the new
copy protection schemes as opposed to those that were originally used.
The new schemes are quite different than the first generation and will
only become much more sophisticated. We no longer have "redbook" CD's.
Some new CD's may be ripped by SOME programs or by SOME drives or by
SOME operating systems or a combination thereof. Yeah, I can copy a CD
via digital out to my professional stand-alone CD writer or my digital
audio tape player and then rip it (or copy it via analogue out), but my
whole point in starting this thread wasn't that a particular scheme
would not eventually be cracked or a workaround found, but that this
has become a giant shell game about DRM. 

MOST people will not have the time or sophistication to figure out how
to rip a non-DRM copy of their CD, thus coercing those who manufacture
products (digital audio players, including Slim Devices) to adopt DRM
protection. The hackers will find a way: "Let's see...this is the new
CD by the Foo Wrestlers. According to my new Snoop Copy Protect Detect
program it uses the SunMoonMacrovision XYZ protection scheme. Ahhh, now
I can switch to my Linux/Apple/Commodore 64 box, plug in my external
Plextor/Lite On combo 12XY drive, use Isobuster/EAC/Audiograb prebeta
version 87a, run it through my homebrew DAC computer card, store an
image on my hard drive, convert to FLAC with cuesheet and then rip it
to CD-R with Nero version 1AZP. Now I can use that copy to rip it to my
player or drive without DRM. Yesssireee, I CRACKED it." 

The major labels and copy protection companies employed by them must
enjoy reading 20 pages of hacker forums discussions about the confusion
over how to rip the new releases. I would expect that they do not intend
to confound everyone, just most people. In fact, Sony/BMG press releases
have referred to "casual piracy". They know they are not going to outwit
the dedicated hacker who wants to post the stuff on P2P networks--they
will fight and are fighting that particular battle with lawsuits and
legislation. 

I suspect that the days of holding down the shift key or pressing
Control-Alt-Whatever while holding your mouth just right to avoid a
program installation are over. The major labels are at war with piracy
and I can't blame them. However, their scorched earth policy will soon
interfere with the average person's ability to listen to the music they
purchased legally and legitimately and most likely will result in DRM
becoming standard for hardware manufacturers who need to sell their
products in the marketplace. The customers will be hollering at the
manufacturer of their players (YOUR player will not play/store MY song)
and NOT the labels. This is precisely what the labels want: to force DRM
on manufacturers of hardware. Then the battle has been won. Slim Devices
and other manufacturers want and need to sell to a broad range of
people, not just sophisicated computer users who can figure out how to
crack copy protected audio content.


-- 
Jeff52
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