mherger;348200 Wrote:
>
> > first of all, there is no problem whatsoever from a KISS pov, to add
> a
> > button in the install wizard that says "optional advanced settings"
> or
> > something like that. to me, its just nuts to say that somehow will
> > melt a newbies mind. it won't.
>
> You need to take a look at the big picture: If you go out and buy a
> Duet,
> you'll have to go through 20 or 30 steps taking actions, decisions etc.
> to
> get it up and running. Even if my numbers are wrong, there are way too
>
> many steps. We have to cut them down. Some are hard to leave out (eg.
> WLAN
> configuration), others are simple. Guess which ones we'll try to get
> rid
> of first. The user wants to listen to music, not answer a 30 point
> questionnaire, not even whether he wants advanced or simplified
> configuration ("oh, I don't want to miss anything - let's go XXL with
> the
> advanced options"). Sometimes less is more.
this is the perspective i don't get... if you're concerned with noobs
who just want it up and running as quick as possible, then be concerned
with that. *don't make an assumption that this group will ALSO click a
button they don't need to click, b/c frankly, if thy do so, they no
longer are part of that group!*
it could be called "advanced users options only." make it scary.
'enter at your own risk.' make it so if they click it, its
overwhelming, and so they back out.
but don't try to find reasons not to do it, when it so clearly makes
sense to do it. i am always interacting with novice computer users,
and this would not be a problem from my exp. lots of programs do it
just as i describe.
and before you tell me i'm wrong about all this consider:
you are WAY advanced, you are a slim expert. therefore you really
aren't in a position to judge.
in other words, its the masses out here, who i often identify with vis
a vis slim, who you should be listening to to make these decisions for
you.
if the goal is to make it appeal to the masses, then listen to the
masses! don't try to think for them, which is an error i find slim
makes too often.
mherger;348200 Wrote:
>
> > secondly, i think the setup wizard should explain that slim stuff
> > doesn't use audio device drivers at all.
>
> Support never mentioned this being an issue.
well, most people don't like to admit embarrassing things. but as slim
clearly plans to try to get this out to a wider audience, i think it
would be helpful for the setup program to provide a link to a wiki that
explained what the slim stuff is, and how it works, and what it isn't.
i know that i have a hard time explaining to people i try to convert,
and it would be so much easier showing them via a wiki page.
i do thinnk people will buy it WITHOUT understanding all this.
mherger;348200 Wrote:
>
> > a lot of new users imo are
> > surprised at the TCP/IP paradigm, and it should be explained, or at
> > least provide a wiki link of explanation.
>
> Not sure. Networking is involved, "Network music player" is written on
> the
> box. But the user should not have to deal about a "TCP/IP paradigm"
> (what's that anyway? I don't know neither). He should plug the device
> in,
> set the WLAN password and be done.
the user shouldn't have to deal with that? thats a rather lofty goal
considering how essential it is.
a TCP/IP paradigm vis a vis slim is one where audio is sent to your
player via network protocol. sure, its a bit heavy to explain it that
way to the user, but i wasn't saying thats how it should be done,
rather just that it should be done somehow.
mherger;348200 Wrote:
>
> > thirdly, i find that automatically triggered rescans are indeed
> > confusing and disorienting to newbies, and even some more advanced
> > users. i still don't know which ones will and won't do this. i
> find
>
> I was wondering whether we should change default behaviour to cancel a
>
> running scan if a new action is triggering a scan. This at least would
>
> remove the need to cancel it manually.
why do it like that?
again, the thrust from slim is to think for me. VA logic, greatest
hits logic, automatic rescans, etc... its all very irritating. i just
the option to opt out. why not grant me that rather than start an
unnecessary scan i don't want only to have it cancelled an restarted
again automatically if i fool with a second automatic option?
the problem ISN'T cancelling it manually! its the opposite!
mherger;348200 Wrote:
>
> > you could add a status line to the settings page or player page
> saying
> > "rescan required" if an option is changed that necessitates the
> > rescan.
>
> Sounds reasonable. Please file an enhancement request.
>
> Michael
thanks. i do appreciate your hard work, i just am adament in my
opinions, to my wifes daily distress. and i will file that bug.
everyone:
basically my proposal will be that a user can globally opt out of any
automatic rescans. if they do so, and they change an options that
necessitates a rescan, then a dynamic status line on both the settings
page and the main player page will say "options updated, rescan
required" until a rescan is done.
any thoughts or feedback?
i assume all auto rescans are "clear library and rescan everything" is
that correct?
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