> this is the perspective i don't get...  if you're concerned with noobs
> who just want it up and running as quick as possible, then be concerned
> with that.  *don't make an assumption that this group will ALSO click a
> button they don't need to click, b/c frankly, if thy do so, they no
> longer are part of that group!*

Wrong: people are lazy (I'm sorry, don't want to insult anyone, it's a  
fact :-)), they don't read, thus tend to push buttons they didn't want to  
push, simply because they were too lazy to think about it. How often did  
you see people just click away any warning that came on their screen  
without having a clue what it was about?

> but don't try to find reasons not to do it, when it so clearly makes
> sense to do it.

Don't worry: I don't make up reasons, we let others find them. We're  
currently spending a lot of time and effort collecting information on the  
out of the box experience, watching new users of all kinds (audiophiles  
with $$$$$ equipment, engineers, Joe Sixpack and his daughter, the man who  
doesn't set up an FM radio himself, etc.) how they handle the initial  
setup. I haven't seen one single complaint so far about a scan being  
triggered too early, or not enough options to start with. But a lot of  
"what, another wizard?" and "where's my music?" kind of reactions.

Please accept that you're part of the very advanced users. Next time a  
friend asks you to help him set up his new SB, don't do it. Just watch him  
and try hard not to help him. You'll know what I mean.

> and before you tell me i'm wrong about all this consider:

I'm sorry, too late :-).

> you are WAY advanced, you are a slim expert.

And I welcome you to the club. You're as well. Too many bugs filed, I'm  
sorry.

> therefore you really aren't in a position to judge.

I'm not judging, I'm communicating you our novice users' feedback.

> in other words, its the masses out here, who i often identify with vis
> a vis slim, who you should be listening to to make these decisions for
> you.

Exactly. That's part of my job and what I spend part of my time with right  
now: watch newbies install a SB.

> if the goal is to make it appeal to the masses, then listen to the
> masses!

Then we can stop here. You're as little the masses as I am. You're one  
voice.

> don't try to think for them,

We don't. We listen to them.

Michael
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