erland;636517 Wrote: 
> Yes but they have decided to not sell it in Sweden, at least not yet.
> 
> I could import it but it still loose a lot of its attractiveness
> without support for Netflix and similar services which aren't available
> in Sweden. Streaming from iTunes on a desktop is not something I plan to
> do.

just fyi, you don't have to.  many NAS boxes, like readynas for
example, come with a built in itunes server.  whats great about that,
is you can then use apple hardware, without actually needing a mac, or
running itunes on a computer.

erland;636517 Wrote: 
> And AppleTV is too cheep. Well, I'm happy it's this cheep, but compared
> to anything else it's really cheep for what it does. Apple can release
> it this cheep because they can sell a lot of them, someone like
> Logitech would have a hard time selling similar amount of devices so
> they need to increase the prices a little bit.

well, over here, we don't pity the losers.  you compete or you get
out.

with the touch / revue being THREE TIMES the price of apple TV, (and
airport express is even cheaper) logitech needs to up its game, BIG
TIME.  its not a small difference.

erland;636517 Wrote: 
> However, I do agree with you partly, the Touch have too slow CPU and too
> little memory to be a server and too fast CPU and too much memory to
> just be a player, so if the CPU and/or memory results in a higher price
> they definitely selected the wrong hardware configuration. 
> 
> Personally I suspect it's a lot of other things than CPU/memory that
> sets the price, for example the display, and I also suspect the
> CPU/memory were restricted by the selected hardware platform at the
> time so they maybe didn't have much choices. They do now, but not when
> they started to develop the Touch.

i basically agree with you, but i said from the start that the touch
was a dopey, flawed product.  as you make clear, its too expensive to
be just aplayer, and too under powered to be a true server, and i would
add to that, that most people will have it attached to a stereo, and
won't want or need to sit right next to it to control it, and likewise
will be too far away from it for the screen to truly matter.

the whole thing is just really poorly thought out imo.

what should they have?  two devices with no screens.  one (more
expensive) with server and one without.  then let phone apps (or
computer based SP) control them, set them up, and act as remotes.  if
that "takes off" and sales are good, then consider a third model which
adds a screen.

the devices should also support DLNA; DLNA shouldn't be on the server
(7.6) only.

erland;636517 Wrote: 
> Apple is mass market, so if you want mid-range audio quality and
> simplicity, that's where you should go. 
> 
> If you want high-end audio and customization possibilities, you will
> never get that from Apple because things like that doesn't sell on the
> mass market it just increase the price and maintenance/support costs.

i would argue that if someone was sending music digitally to their
stereo via apple hardware/itunes, you would be hard pressed to actually
hear the difference in a similar SBS digital setup.  but i know there's
a lot of religious audiophiles here, so i'll just say i think most
people would fail a double blind test between the two.

but i do agree that apples software is totally lacking and crap, and
there are many good reasons i agree with, not to use it.


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