erland;636533 Wrote: 
> Without the display the Touch would be completely useless to me. I
> prioritize the display a lot higher than then built-in server, but I
> realize I'm not the target user of Logitech neither is most of the
> people on this forum.

it would still be a player, and while i can see limited cases where it
"fits" as is, i think in trying to be all things to all people, it
actually succeeds in being aggravating to most people.

i will NEVER buy a touch.

erland;636533 Wrote: 
> How would DNLA support on player side result in higher earnings for
> Logitech ?

its obvious!  people want flexible solutions.

if i could use ANYTHING other than SBS to power the hardware, i would! 
and so would many other people!  i would love to use software i feel is
better, more fun, more familiar, to play on the HQ slim hardware. 
thats my DREAM.

if the players had this, i'd have like 3 or 4 more slim devices FOR
SURE.  and yes, i realize i'd not be able to sync without SBS, so i
know that, but i could still fire up SBS but knowing that wouldn't stop
me from getting more boxes.

the hardware is where they make money, not developing the software!

erland;636533 Wrote: 
> - It will cause more support issues from users with third party servers
> - It will cause more time in quality assurance to ensure their players
> works towards third party servers
> - It will result in decreased number of sold server hardware boxes (if
> they decided to release server hardware)

funny, LOTS of companies seem totally able to sell successful dlna
players, are you saying logitech can't?

the biggest drain on logitech is developing SBS imo.  if they had more
sales, they could get avg users into other apps to power the hardware,
and still have more resources for developing the player and SBS.  it
could be win win.

erland;636533 Wrote: 
> I guess theoretically, it could result in more sold players if Logitech
> creates a crappy server and there is someone else creating a better
> DLNA server. Still, I've a hard time seeing how Logitech will benefit
> from DLNA on player side. I still believe the main reason they do it on
> the server side is to get support for Logitech Revue and possibly
> because they have some big plans to create future simple DLNA players
> which won't need SqueezeOS based firmware and due to this not support
> things like mysqueezebox.com and multi room audio. A simple player with
> simpler software would be more similar to other stuff Logitech produces.

who knows what they have planned or why.  i see little rhyme or reason
in ANYTHING they do.  but if someone wants to buy the hardware to use
with a different piece of software, like WMP which is a DLNA server,
then that only makes the potential marketplace for their hardware
bigger!  most people i show SBS to don't get it and think it sucks, and
they are basically right.  its complex, not fun, not flexible, and
generally a pain in the ass.

erland;636533 Wrote: 
> I completely agree, most people don't even hear difference between high
> bitrate MP3 and FLAC, some people will object but they'd still fail a
> MP3 vs FLAC blind test.

yep.  :)

erland;636533 Wrote: 
> Main problem for me with iTunes is that it isn't server based, it means
> that I have to use a specific desktop computer to access my music
> library. Still, I'm not their typical user, so you can't really blame
> them. At least they will finally make wireless syncing with portable
> devices possible in next release, so they are moving in the right
> direction.
> 
> Apple does a lot of great things but iTunes isn't one of them, at least
> not yet.

i don't understand you here.  itunes IS a server app.  also, like i
said, a lot of NAS boxes, even cheap ones, come with an itunes server
built in.

so in other words, you could run a NAS box, or cheapo headless system
with itunes in a closet, and stream from your iphone to your apple tv
via it, np.  its the best thing about what they do, b/c where the music
is played from, where its played to, is all very easy to control and
very flexible not to mention intuitive.


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