MrSinatra;636594 Wrote: 
> my apologies if i am mistaken then, but i was under the impression that
> if you have a DLNA client, like say a PS3, you could send to it video
> or music files from say WMP, which is a DLNA server.  meaning, that a
> user, via WMP directly, could control what went out over the DLNA
> client.
> 
No, you can't. That was my point.

You can REQUEST such data from e.g. the PS3 (renderer) and you can have
a 3rd device in the network (control point) that controls all this by
talking to BOTH the renderer and the server but there are actually very
few combinations in which this works really well.

There are a lot of examples in which the renderer and control point are
on the same machine, e.g. for AV receivers that use the TV screen to
give visual feedback and these often kind of work, but are not what I
would really call "remote control". I don't see controlling something
on a TV screen with an IR remote "remote control" for audio.
It can be fine for TV, of course, since you need that TV screen to view
that anyway.
> 
> so, are you saying that isn't the case?  that only the DLNA client can
> control whats called to play?
> 
Well, as mentioned above, it's even more complicated than that...
There are also cases (Windows Media or however this is being called
now, for example) where all three logical devices reside on the same
machine and obviously that's what works best.

Also, with Windows Media you can have the control point and the server
on the same machine and this also works well since the control point
now has permanent and direct access to the data and can create things
like playlists and if you drive a remote streaming client with that
combination (supported by some renderers but not the majority) you can
get good remote control as long as you sit in front of your server...
> 
> if so my fault entirely then for misunderstanding how it all works.  i
> might be confusing what microsoft can do with its media center and xbox
> 360, which i know is different, but i thought roughly the same.  
> 
> i thought with twonky or foobar or whatever DLNA server, you could use
> the app/server to control what went out to the DLNA device.  pleaase
> let me know if i have this all wrong.
Twonky and MS both have renderers that run on the server. The Twonky
one actually can even be remotely controlled but if it does so, it -
funny enough - doesn't use DLNA anymore but something proprietary
Twonky invented and which also some clients support...

DLNA is a mess.


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