MrSinatra;636594 Wrote: 
> my apologies if i am mistaken then, but i was under the impression that
> if you have a DLNA client, like say a PS3, you could send to it video
> or music files from say WMP, which is a DLNA server.  meaning, that a
> user, via WMP directly, could control what went out over the DLNA
> client.
> 
Remote control means to me that:
1. I have a DLNA player(renderer) (for example PS3)
2. I have a DLNA server (for example WMP on a computer)
3. I'm sitting somewhere with only my iPhone/Android device in my hand
and want to remotely control what's playing on the DLNA player streamed
from my DLNA server

Can I do this via DLNA ?

I know I can do it with a Remote Desktop app on the iPhone/Android
which shows the computer screen on my iPhone/Android device, but that's
not particularly user friendly and I'm not sure how that would be
preferred solution.

I know I can do it with SBS, Squeezebox'es and iPeng, but then I'm not
combining server and player from multiple companies like you want,
neither is SBS<->Squeezebox nor iPeng<->SBS currently communicating via
DLNA in this scenario as far as I know.

So can you mention three different products from three different
companies which can be combined to together and work as point 1, 2 and
3 in the above scenario ?

As pippin says, you can do it if:
- Point 1(renderer) and 3(control) is inside the same product
or
- Point 2(server) and 3(control) is inside the same product

The problem with having point 1(renderer/player) and 3(control) in the
same box is that then you have to use a separate remote control for
each player, one for PS3 and another one for Squeezebox, so it doesn't
work in a multi room scenario. In most cases this also means that the
remote you get is a IR remote which in most cases means that music
selection doesn't get particularly user friendly.

The problem with having 2(server) and 3(control) in the same box often
means no remote control as you typically have to sit beside the
computer to locally control it in this scenario. If you do all controls
from a computer, this is fine, but I suspect most users don't want to go
to the computer to control the music, they want to sit in the living
room and start playing something even if the computer currently is in
another room.

So DLNA might in theory mean that you are free to combine devices from
different manufacturers but in practice there are very few (if even
any) product on the market that's able to do this via DLNA for audio
today.

In theory you can do a Android/iOS remote control (not using DLNA)
which is tied to a specific 2+3(server+control) setup, remotely
communicating with something else than DLNA. 

However, can you mention one such remote that exist today except for
IR-remotes ? 
And also one which works with the excellent DLNA server you would like
to use instead of SBS ?

As long as it doesn't exist, this whole discussion is very theoretical,
when it exists and it's combined with an excellent server+control
product, then I agree it makes some sense for Logitech to start
producing DLNA players and also go into a partnership with the company
producing this server+control product which is better than Logitech's
own server. Personally, I've a hard time seeing this happening, but
that's just me.

To me it feels like Logitech could provide a lot better user experience
by focus on their own server and players and allow them to be remote
controlled and customized in similar fashion as they are today, no
reason to spend time doing DLNA stuff if it won't result in a better
user experience than Logitech's own solution. Why invite other
companies to compete with you when you know your own solution is the
best one available ?

The only scenario that makes sense to me is DLNA player support to be
able to stream and control stuff from a computer (for example by using
WMP), but I wonder how many users that want to be tied to a computer
this way, a lot of the discussions on this forum seems to go in the
other direction, most people want to play music without having to turn
on their computer.


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