Hi all Thanx for all your fine input. I'll summarize my answers to the questions raised in the previous mails here.
I will be repeating my self a bit, as I can see that some of the questions and proposals you raise are for things that I have already mentioned. I think it's actually best if I do a short summerization of my problem. My problem: If an album of various artists in one folder, has an unique album artist for all files in the folder, together with the same Album Name, the album (folder) should NOT be handled with the LMS various Artists functionality. That is, that LMS places that album under a "Various Artists" artist, in top of the Artists list. Instead that album (with unique Album Artist and Album name) should not be handled with the "Various Artists" functionality. See http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/VariousArtistsLogic For me, this album is errounously handled by the LMS Various Artists grouping, and I do not want this to be the case (and it is an error it happens). I have this album in one folder that gives the errounous handling, whereas I have 7 other albums in own folders that does not give the errounous handling. For you qustions and proposals: > Finally, remember to do a complete delete and rescan of your > library (not just a search for new and changed files). I alway do a full delete and rescan. Still I have the problem. > If I use Album Artist for such album (and do NOT set COMPILATION flag to 1), > then such album does NOT show up as a compilation. It does for me, and that is the core of my problem. > OK I get it, by being treated as compilation I guess you and Jens > mean whether it show us up under Artists->"Various Artists", right? Exactly. > the one album that is improperly handled, HOW SO? meaning, is it getting > called a comp and in reality it is not a comp? Exactly. It gets to be called a Compilation, i.e. "Various Artists", and should not (as it have one unique Album Artist for all files in folder). > here's what i want you to do. > for the album that is categorized incorrectly, change the album tag > to "XYZ" and the AA tag to "ABC" (both for all tracks) > and make all the artist tags represent the actual artist > of the song per track. > then do a full clear and rescan, and let us know where the album ends up. > it SHOULD end up under "ABC" and NOT in the various artists category. > IF it does end up in the VA category, it means at least one of the tracks > must have a comp=1 tag on it. Good idea! Regretably it did turn up as a "Various Artists". This is the very core of my problem. I also get to have an album of XYZ whereas I do not get an Artist of ABC (which is correct handling). It was a full clear rescan (I always use that). And, I have very thorughly checked that NO track has a COMP=1 tag > why mix formats on a single album? that kind of thing leads to issues like this. I mix formats, because this folder essentially is a various artists folder for me. It is tracks where I have 1-2 track for each artist, and those artists are not ones that I would like to have in my Artists list. I basicly don't know the artist they just at a point in time made a hit which I like. These files I group in one folder. I may have ripped/obtained them in MP3 and I may have ripped them in WMA. And, as mentioned, i do NOT want to have the folder/album in top of list due to the Various Artists functionality, as it disrupts the grouping and handling wrong, when I browse by genre and others. Also, mixing MP3 and WMA should not be the reason for the problem. As mentioned I have MP3 which mixes fine with WMA without the folder/album ending up as VA, whereas other MP3's does result in the error. I have tried file-by-file. > we're definitely getting closer, and i do think that at times, one track > with a stray tag can affect a whole album. That is what I have been thinking also! But I have cleared tracks for odd tags. In the bottom, after my replies. I will post pictures of the tags from LMS for files that handles correctly and files the imposes the problem. > try using this formula in mp3tag for tag types: > %_tag_read%[ (%_tag%)] Could you say a few words more, as to how this is done? > I'd go as far as taking the mp3 only folder (assuming the problem is with the mp3's) > and remove all but one file... Put the other files somewhere outside the > LMS watched folders. > You could then go one by one with each file and probably narrow down > to a specific file. I would do it for all the files, too. > You could have more than one file giving you problems. I have tried that specifically as mentioned before. File by file. And I do have more files that causes the problem. As I also have files that do not cause the problem. I'll post screenshots of both examples in the bottom. > Last, you should clarify a bit exactly how you know files are being > listed as compilations. Not being familiar with the Danish version > of the software, are compilations grouped under "Various Artists" > or is it actually a Danish translation of Various Artists? > In other words, how is your Album Artist tag different from > the compilation heading? > I only ask because I know that as far as the English versions of > the software go, if we have AA = Various Artists while > compilations are set as Various Artists, albums with that AA > won't show up (one of the earlier mentioned bugs). > We either have to 1) explicitly add a compilation tag 2) > rename the compilation identifier or 3) rename our AA to work > around that bug. Good point. In the danish version "Various Artists" is called "Diverse kunstnere". But I have tried to name Album Artis a name different from both "Various Artists" and "Diverse Kunstere". E.g. I have tried ZYX as mentioned above. But I have also tried other names. Also I have ensured, that the folder does not have a name of "Various artists" nor "diverse kunstnere". And again, I always do a full scan every time I try off solution proposals. Also, I have tried setting my Compilation name in LMS to many different names, also names very different from the two standard names. So, this is not the reason. > right... whats important is that whatever the value is, the actual > string you use, it has to be something that is NOT in any of > your A or AA tags. the point is to avoid ANY possible string conflict. As mentioned just above, I have tried that. With no luck. > Alternatively, could it be that you initially scanned this album into > SBS/LMS without an album artist tag (or with a compilation tag), > and you have now corrected the tags and rescanned, > but it's not removing the Compilation flag. This used to be a bug > in SBS, and probably hasn't been fixed in LMS. The folder had an Album Artists tag from the very beginning. And I even had tried out with a new folder of a different name, and adding files one-by-one, always ensuring a Album Artists tag is present. Still I have the problem. The above should answer most of your questions to me. And now. To clarify my problem further, I would have liked to give you some screenshots. I will revert with these, partly as it is getting quite late here, but mostly since it was a bit more tricky for me to render it down to a few files giving the error. I had specific files writtin down that gave the error, but trying it out further I found that the tracks/files that specifically have given the error on another occasion (that is, when I added that specific file, the error of the folder being handled as Various Artists occured)does not give the error in combination with another file/files. To me, that is even more odd. I have tried so far. - isolating it only to MP3, in one folder, same Artist tag same Album artist for all tracks. Still with the error. - Isolating it to MP3's all with same tag-version. Still error. - Having a set of MP3's and adding a specific file not given the error. - Having another set of MP3, and adding the specific same file, given the error. - having a subset of MP3's that does not give the error. - When I have only WMA I never get the error. In other words, the MP3's I had listet for you to see as the culprits, turned out not to be culprits when combined with other MP3's. I'll investigate furter, to see if I can find one file only, that always make the error occur. -- JENCDK ------------------------------------------------------------------------ JENCDK's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=54568 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=93847 _______________________________________________ discuss mailing list [email protected] http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
