PasTim wrote: 
> Like many I have been wondering what to do if my squeezebox devices
> fail.  Many of the solutions on various threads suggest hardware
> replacements, and I'm a little puzzled as to why this is necessary at
> all.  
> 
> LMS (with several plugins) is still far and away more flexible than
> anything else I have found for organising and selecting music.  For
> instance, on no other system have I found a way to play a random
> Classical Work (i.e. a randomly selected series of sequential series of
> tracks on an album that makes up a classical work).  The best non-LMS
> server I have found is MinimServer (a UpNP server that has a really
> clever way of selecting tracks and has many other good features), but it
> can't do the more sophisticated stuff.
> 
> I can control what LMS is doing from a wireless device with a browser
> anywhere in the house.  In my case I need a laptop or tablet since
> classical tracks tend to have long names that occupy too much space on a
> smartphone.
> 
> I have good quality amplifiers connected to my wired home network. 
> These are UPnP compliant, and will accept streaming across my home
> network.  I have used foobar2000 (running under wine on linux) with a
> UPnP plugin that provides a 'playback stream capture' mode.  This
> streams anything that foobar2000 is playing locally directly to my
> amplifiers over the network using lpcm at up to 24/192,000 quality -
> more than good enough for me.  I therefore know that sending digital
> audio in this way is possible. 
> 
> So 'all I need' is something like the excellent squeezelite (which I use
> a lot when at my desktop PC), but instead of outputting to a local audio
> device, replicates what foobar can do using UPnP over my wired network. 
> I don't mind that the amplifier won't display any information about what
> is currently playing, since I am usually the other side of the room and
> can't read it from there anyway.  I use the browser for that.
> 
> I really shouldn't need another hardware device, be it based on a
> Raspberry Pi or Wandboard, with the attendant complexities involved.  I
> don't need another DAC, or discussions about async USB versus optical or
> coax, different linux kernels and so on, much fun though such ideas
> are.
> 
> As a slightly playful experiment I did manage to get sound from
> squeezelite to my amplifiers over my wired network without using the
> Touch, utilising an over-complicated combination of tools pretending to
> be an internet radio,  but I couldn't get better quality than mp3 to
> work, and I had too many bits of software in the chain to make it
> practical (squeezelite to high quality audio, monitored by vlc, streamed
> to a local http address, picked up via minimserver in a playlist and
> played by my renderer).  Any attempt to stream wav (or flac) from vlc
> failed, and I'm guessing that is because I don't understand http
> streaming technology well enough.  However, this really doesn't matter
> because this isn't a sensible solution, involving far too many
> intermediate steps.
> 
> So, is there any chance that some clever developer could produce
> something like squeezelite (so I can continue to use LMS as the
> best-in-class server) but get it to stream over a network to a UPnP
> renderer at high (but selectable) quality, rather than outputting to a
> local audio device?  Is the reason no such solution seems to exist is
> that there are technical downsides of which I am unaware? Or does
> someone out there know of an existing solution?
> 
> Or am I just being daft.....?

I totally agree with you. The LMS music system with plugins is the most
flexible music system on the market. Therefore I today got my fingers in
a second Transporter for my kitchen. It runs balanced directly to a pair
of active studio monitors.
Sounds great :) . I love the flexibility to create playlists with
dynamic playlists from my own library and combine them new music
playlists from Wimp-hifi (flac streaming). My kids have a receiver and
active speakers too. They mostly listen to 
Wimp. And the I have a receiver in the bedroom too. So I am not going
away from my SB-system in years from now....  I am upgrading it...... 
:)
The software is also rock solid now, and even on the ReadyNas the
upgrades works like a charm now.

LONG LIVE LMS  :)



Callesoroe
Living room: Transporter, Tact RCS 2.2X digital preamp, Martin Logan
Vista speakers, AMPS(Icepower): Acoustic Reality Ear Enigma
PLUS(PANELS), Acoustic Reality Ear TWO MKII(Bas)
Kitchen: SB-duet, Beresford TC7510 DAC, Prodipe Pro 5 active bi-amp
speakers.
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