[email protected] wrote: 
> If there is Prior Art that shows that someone came up with the idea 
> before Sonos registered for the patent, the patent would not be 
> considered novel and therefore not valid.
> 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prior_art
> 
> Keep in mind, folks are awarded patents all the time where there is 
> prior art.  Patent reviewers typically can't find every nook and cranny 
> to determine if a patent should be awarded.
> 
> Slim devices was sold in late 2006, so it would have been good for Slim 
> Devices to have challenged this particularly if there was question about
> 
> a patent by a competitor that could affect the value of the company when
> 
> selling it to Logitech.
> 
> Tim
> 
> On 1/10/22 11:12 AM, chicks wrote:
> > 
> > ftlight wrote:
> >> I posted a link to the patent earlier in this thread:
> >> https://patents.google.com/patent/US8588949B2/en
> >>
> >> Slim Devices clearly had sold products with this facility earlier
> than
> >> even the June 2003 priority date claimed by Sonos in the 2013 patent
> >> above that is the basis of their claims against Google.
> > 
> > If they didn't patent it, though (and I can't find anything assigned
> to
> > Logitech that indicates they did), it's a moot point.
> > 
> > 
> > 
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You would be amazed by the number of times where there is prior art and
still you will not get patent invalidated because of what I mentioned
previously, peculiar wording. It’s all about wording, and not « common
sense » at all. Getting something out of inter partes review is
hopeless. And ultimately, in the US it’s jury trial and quite often in
Marshall, Texas - good luck there :)



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