Aaron Zinck Wrote: > > Yes, you can use the preamp as a brute-force and simplistic gain > > control. I was not saying that you cannot do that. But it mostly not > a > > good solution for listening to music. > > This is a solution that all of the music-listening world uses. You > need a > gain control of some sort. Period. If you want to do some sort of > dynamic > leveling then there are many solutions for that from live dynamic > compression to solutions like replaygain. I, for one, don't want a > dynamic > compressor in line with my music listening. > > > > > While the preamp does allow you to set a maximum gain, it has no > > knowledge of the volume of the incoming music. So you will have some > > music that is too quiet and some that is too loud. > > I will have some music that is louder than others, that is true. But > your > assessment that that is not what I want is presumptious. Besides--this > is > far removed from the issue that started this thread so I don't really > see > your point here. > > I'm not going to bother addressing all of your other statements one by > one. > Sean's recommendation of running your SB3 into a preamp before an amp > stands > as making sense. I agree that the only absolute way to avoid damage > from > spikes like this is with a limiter. However, that doesn't mean a > preamp > won't *help* the situation (and help it tremendously). You seem to be > in > the my-way-or-the-highway camp of arguing. There's no middle ground > with > you, no shades of grey. You seem to say "if a solution leaves even a > remote > possibility of damage being done then that solution has no merit at > all--you're all wrong and only my solution is right". A preamp can be > a > natural limiter of sorts as parts of its gain stage are likely to clip > before allowing the full brunt of a shrieking SB3 through to the amps > (by > the way, for the benefit of anyone reading this post out of the context > of > this thread it should be noted that this is apparently an extremely > unusual > problem). This is not to say that there's no potential for damage, > just > that a preamp would help mitigate possible damage. And, by the way, > any > piece of electronics can malfunction at any point in time. A limiter > can go > bad and start feeding crap into your amps. There's no guarantee > against > that. I'm not saying that that doesn't make a limiter a good > solution--I > just wanted to remind you that it's not fail-safe. > > > > > > All I know is that the SB puts out bad data far more often than any > > other digital source that I've tried. It is something to be aware of > > and take appropriate measures, however compromised those measures > may > > be. > > > > I've been involved in this mailing list (and forums) as either a > "lurker" or > active participant for over 2 years now. This is generally a very > helpful > and friendly community of folks with similar interests. I've watched > your > posts over the past couple of days and you seem to have come on here > with an > axe to grind. The tone of your posts seems designed to irritate and > agitate. I obviously can't stop you from participating and don't > desire to > censor your comments, but perhaps some self-censoring is in order on > your > part. If this is a community that you desire to be active in then > please > treat people with respect. Your comment about the SB3's digital > output > seems pretty baseless to me and that's why it's disrespectful to all of > the > people on here who have tried to make this device great. Have you had > the > problem described? What problems have you had with the SB3's digital > outs? > What use does your comment serve if you're not going to point out > what's > specifically wrong that needs to be fixed? I think we can all > acknowledge > that this is a device that's on the bleeding edge. All devices have > some > problems and I trust SlimDevices to fix the problems with their devices > more > than any other company. There are occasional problems with it, but > most of > us are here because we love the product and we love being geeks and > figuring > stuff out and improving the product. I'm willing to do this because > I've > seen SlimDevices show incredible receptiveness to constructive > criticism and > fresh ideas. Their products are improved at breakneck speed. In this > particular circumstance it would appear that the problem isn't any kind > of > Slim engineering error, but rather an error by one of their suppliers. > I'm > sure they'll do whatever's in their power to isolate the problem and > work on > getting a fix or making it right with those who are seeing the issue. > Repeatedly offering disparaging comments, a big ego, and whining aren't > a > way to endear yourself to the community. If you don't like the SB3 > then > return the thing and leave the forums--that's your perogative. No > one's > forcing you to live with an SB3. It has a full, 30-day money back > guarantee > and if you don't like it you can send it back and go tell all your > friends > how crappy the SB3 is. If, however, you decide to keep the device > then > don't act like you've been duped or swindled. You had 30 days to > assess the > device. You know its (in my mind relatively few) shortcomings and if > you > have constructive criticism and a respectful attitude towards the > members of > this community then come on in and we'll work together to make the > thing > even cooler. > > Remember: I'm not saying don't criticize the device--just do it the > right > way.I don't have a lot of time to spend figuring out the very best way to talk about something for a company that ripped me off for $200+. Having almost blown some very expensive speakers with the SB1, I really don't have any patience left for the raft of digital noise bugs that apparently still lives in the SB3 ( the original thread topic ).
I do have bad experiences with the company and it will take time for good experiences to outweigh the bad. You may not like the way I am saying something and you will just have to live with that. On the technical side of things, I think there are countless algorithms for identifying noise and unwanted sounds and many shipping products. While you might have been using a SB for two years, you don't have 25 years of audio background. Do your research before claiming things like there's no way to do this. I am not your lab assistant or tutor. If you are interested, do the work. -- enduser ------------------------------------------------------------------------ enduser's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2656 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=18818 _______________________________________________ Discuss mailing list [email protected] http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
