On 1/8/07, MrSinatra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Jack Coates;168445 Wrote: > It's almost as if some streams come from farther across the Internet > than others, and have more network hops... nah, that's crazy talk. > Never mind. i live 40minutes from the source of the stream. yet other streams (and all other streams are farther away from me than 40min), did work. yes, i know geography isn't equal to net distance, but still, i don't think the PSU.edu traffic goes to china b4 it gets to me 40min away.
They have these things called "diagnostic tools" you know. traceroute, ping, and ethereal are almost everywhere, iptraf or bing would be great if you're on *nix. Your hesitance to use them and post results instead of SHOUTING a lot leads to my unwillingness to accept that you've thoroughly eliminated all the other possible problems. You haven't posted the results of a network bandwidth plugin test, you haven't reported if it works when you moved to wired, and you haven't said that you've used anything like *stumbler to validate your wireless neighborhood. Maybe you've done all these things and are insulted that anyone would impugn your troubleshooting capabilities, but that hasn't been communicated adequately (except for the insulted part). ...
> until recently. Now, if I only look at one problem in isolation, is it > the failing NICs, or is it some Linux kernel bug, or is it Slim > Devices firmware? Kinda hard to say until the whole thing fails, > right? sorry, but what exactly is your point? that we can't be certain its SD so we shouldn't focus on it and focus on everything else instead?
The point is that focusing on a single device in a complex system is a great way to chase your own tail. This is what the OSI layers are for.
at the time i was having the problem, i STILL had ruled out all other possibilities within reason. LOCAL 256kbps mp3s worked, SOME other net streams worked, but some didn't. does the wireless care which stream i listen to???
Yes, obviously, because the buffer is draining. If the data flow is marginal upstream of your location, hiccups in the last loop (wireless in this case) become more prominent. Bear in mind that Winamp on your PC has more than 25 megabits of buffer to work with.
and how close would a microwave need to be? and would they have it on 24/7?
a) Depends how leaky it is. b) What about a cordless phone? Or a generator? Or a home electronics kit? Maybe you're down the street from ezkcdude, building DACs in his garage :) I don't know that there is interference in your wireless loop, but I haven't seen you effectively rule it out by posting that the network bandwidth plugin is solidly 100%, so I'm mentioning it.
now, just b/c i can't tell you it isn't my neighbors nuclear powered microwave with the certainty of god, doesn't mean, or imo, SHOULDN'T mean that we can't put the focus where it belongs, on the SD product. this is the reasonable most likely possibility at this point, unless u can explain why you think it should be something else, given the results as i described, (meaning some other streams worked, or the local stuff worked wirelessly).
I'm all done talking. Good luck, -- "I spent all me tin with the ladies drinking gin, So across the Western ocean I must wander" -- traditional _______________________________________________ discuss mailing list [email protected] http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
