forestcaver wrote:
>> Ok, you say you don't want to rant, but can you explain why you
>> think two versions of the SlimServer would result in you getting
>> a better product?
> 
> Not what I said - I don't want n versions. I just don't want a 
> monolithic, bloated server.

The current server is what it is. "bloated" is a very value laden word.
One man's bloat is another man's rich feature set.

The source to the server is available, patches welcome.

But the point is that if you suggest a different software architecture,
it will add bugs during the transition. And if the software is designed
with many small modules, the combinatorial explosion will make support
problems grow exponentially.

>> powerful CPUs are nearly free, dual core Intel CPUS are under
>> $200  and are screaming fast. Memory is almost free, you should have a
>> gigabyte  in  any semi-serious computer server, and anything running 
>> SlimServer
>> is by definition a server.
> 
> Sorry - I must live in a different socioeconomic grouping - $200 is
> not free to me and neither is memory.

That is the price for new CPUs.
I've run my slimserver for years on cast off (i.e. free) computers.


> 1) I dont want to keep a dedicated server on all the time. 2) I
> dont want the noise 3) I dont want the heat 4) I dont want the cost
> (climate, finances, etc)

I think you are grossly overestimating the cost and impact of these.
A used machine will run from free to $100 or so. Trading your car for a 
bicycle once a week will save the energy.

In all homes, the refrigerator is the largest energy user, more so than 
even air conditioning.

> Moreover, I really think that the model is starting to get absurd -
> the recommendation that you need to build a dedicated high-powered
> modern server to play music on a consumer electronics device is
> slightly ridiculous. Am I really the only one who thinks that if a
> music player's software bloats the solution is to build a large
> dedicated modern server ? Let me put it another way - I really like
> my Slimp3 but there is no way that I could recommend this to a
> non-computer literate friend - the maintenance costs on their time
> would be too great. It is not the hardware but rather the software
> that is the problem.

If you like your Slimp3, keep using it.

All software suffers from feature creep. My first Windows machine was a 
386/33 with 5 MB of ram. Worked for what I needed. Modern machines are a 
hundred times faster (and no more than 1/3 the cost).

I think a better comparison is not to a slow laptop and NAS, but to a 
SONOS, which bundles in the server. That is a consumer device. It is 
also much more expensive than a SqueezeBox and used PC.

But more importantly, your ideal SlimServer is not mine. Supporting both 
is a non-trivial effort.

-- 
Pat
http://www.pfarrell.com/music/slimserver/slimsoftware.html

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