snarlydwarf;290065 Wrote: > I objected to the "this affects all mp3 users" (which is clearly wrong, > it does not affect me at all,
it does affect you, as you both use user defined tags to get what you want, (proper sorting) and that if it [the 'list albums by band' option] was to sort by TPE2 tags, it would break your methodolgy. snarlydwarf;290065 Wrote: > nor apparently does it affect JimC and most likely a ton of others who > do not use TPE2 for ALBUMARTIST) and the insistence that following the > specifications is somehow a 'workaround'. following the spec isn't the workaround, using MB to make user defined tags to get proper sorting is the workaround. snarlydwarf;290065 Wrote: > If it is changed, it must be an option or lots of people will have their > tags break. i completely agree. snarlydwarf;290065 Wrote: > (And I also object to calling it 'Album Artist'.. it is not the name of > the tag, or the normalized tag, and it is confusing and misleading to > talk about it as such.) i call it TPE2. some other programs call it Band or Album Artist. yes, calling it Album Artist is wrong, but they do. should TPE2 be used to to fill ALBUMARTIST? maybe. or maybe BAND should be used as an option to sort by. snarlydwarf;290065 Wrote: > The code that uses that flag is Schema::Album::artist. It is used > precisely once, and makes no reference to TPE2, since that is called > long after tags are normalized. So, yes, any change to how that flag > works now would affect all formats that had a BAND tag. i responded to Jim on this and i think i said the same thing differently, essentially that VA logic is unrelated to TPE2 / BAND tags, except possibly for certain words, (like soundtrack). (thats assuming i am understanding you correctly) snarlydwarf;290065 Wrote: > From the comments, if there is no ALBUMARTIST assigned to an album, and > it is trying to figure out who to attribute it to for listing, it > returns the BAND. It is never sorted, it is only displayed. agreed. snarlydwarf;290065 Wrote: > Note this is only for listing. Unless I missed something, this is the > only place this is used, and only affects the HTML generation. agreed, (afaik). snarlydwarf;290065 Wrote: > This was most likely meant to be used for a case like this: > > Album: Brandenburg Concertos > . Artist: JS Bach > . TPE2: Duluth Harmonica Quintet > > To distinguish it from: > > Album: Brandenburg Concertos > . Artist: JS Bach > . TPE2: Cleveland Symphony Orchestra > > That set of tags (indent means 'these are tracks',... and yes I skipped > a ton of tags that are irrelevant to the illustration) would display: > > Brandenburg Concertos (Duluth Harmonica Quintet) > Brandenburg Concertos (Cleveland Symphony Orchestra) > > which lets you distinguish between the two. > > (And, yeah, yeah, Bach should not be TPE1/Artist, but for a lot of > people that tagging scheme makes more sense in their collection and > tastes.) > > So there you have what the flag does... it is simply for display and is > useful to seperate similarly named works when 'albumartist' is not > really the correct setting. i just want to add one point to that... if those were tracks, and you had group comps together AND list albums by band picked, then SC7 would show BOTH TPE2 values; this gets unwieldy very quickly if your album has a lot of differing TPE2 values, b/c they ALL are shown. -- MrSinatra www.LION-Radio.org Using: Squeezebox2 (primary) / SBR (secondary) / Jive - w/SC 7.0.1beta - Win XP Pro SP2 - 3.2ghz / 2gig ram - D-Link DIR-655 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ MrSinatra's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2336 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=46093 _______________________________________________ discuss mailing list [email protected] http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
