Philip Meyer;292239 Wrote: > >If this is correct, and I assume it is as you have said it, then why > >are you insisting that using band tag as album artist for the lead > band > >of an album is the wrong way? > > > I am not really saying it is the wrong way, just not the right way for > SlimServer/SqueezeCenter, which has never supported it that way > (intentionally it appears). > > I asked a few questions when I first joined this community to get album > artist working. I entered the required tags, as required for SlimServer > to function as I wanted, and I'd had very little problems since. I've > responded to many calls for help in tagging to get SC to work > correctly. > > I have subsequently hacked some of my mp3 albums to copy the album > artist in the band tag, just to satisfy iTunes when I need to use that > for syncing to an iPod. > > I guess I'm just a bit frustrated that this keeps coming up. People > point blank insist that their tags are right, even when told the > reason, etc. They insistn that the really do have album artist set, > and that SqueezeCenter is not working because their tags are perfect. > > >Most programs have accepted this as the > >standard for representing the lead band. > No, most programs have misused the TPE2 tag for storing band. Other > conformant apps suffer as a result. > > I believe most people with classical music collections use Band for > storing the orchestra, because there isn't a specific orchestra tag. > That's a mis-use of the tag to some degree, but it isn't a mis-use of > functionality. Album artist is for grouping, whereas a contributor > role is just someone that performs on a song. > > >Most programs use it and I surmised that it was the best way to go to > be compatible. > SqueezeCenter in it's current form is not compatible. > > I think it's fine to set band to work as album artist for other > applications. I also think it's absolutely correct for SC to be > updated to support (as an option) this alternative way of working. If > an option is added in SC to support it, it would also seem reasonable > to then turn off Band as a contributor role in SqueezeCenter (don't > report album artist and band, because the album artist would then not > be a band). > > >I would like to know why you think yours is the standard for > >mp3 implementing if there is no standard. > There is a standard. TPE2 means Band. > > >If I'm going to change mine > >I'd like to make sure it's needed and if SB is planning on an option > >for people like me before I add another tag to everything. > I would assume that some good developer folks will find some nice > option to get BAND working as ALBUMARTIST. It may take a while, so if > you want your library fixed soon, you're best off adding a specific > ALBUMARTIST tag. It won't affect how other apps interpret your music > collection from your tags. If later you decide to use an SC option to > use BAND as ALBUMARTIST, you shouldn't need to do any retagging > either. > > >PS: So you consider Mediamonkey and dbpoweramp as rubbish > applications? > > > iTunes is definitely rubbish. Unfortunately I still use it, but as > little as possible. Not sure I've ever used MediaMonkey, but I've read > other forum posts, and it does seem to make assumptions about how > tagging should be done. dbPowerAmp is not bad I think. I only use the > converter tool, which is quite good. > > Mp3tag does everything I need from a tagger and more, so I stopped > looking for other apps. I also use FooBar for playing music, which is > a good app too. > > To add a Txxx ALBUMARTIST tag in Mp3tag: > select some songs, go to Extended Tags dialog, enter field ALBUMARTIST > and enter the artist as the value. > You can also configure that to come up as a column in the grid, and as > a field in the Tag Panel. > You can create an action to copy the BAND tag value into ALBUMARTIST. > Then select all music and run the action to do your whole collection in > one go. > > So I'm sorry if I've been a bit vocal. I'll back off now and see what > happens. I've tried to explain why people's tags don't work, and what > to do to get it working really well in SqueezeCenter now, with minimal > fuss. > > Phil
Very good post, I think they need to have you write this up and put in the tagging section of the wiki. I'm sorry if I razzed you too much in my post, I'd probably get tired and short with people if I had your smarts and kept getting the same questions. I figured it out in mp3tag by some trial and error and copied my band tags to true albumartist tags and rescanned my library. Everything worked as advertised other than a problem I've having with a few duplicate albums showing up containing 1 to 3 songs. It's getting these from my C: drive which I still have a copy of my library but have moved it to my K: drive (seagate usb drive). I have no idea why it would pick up a few songs from the old library but it does. Thanks for the explanations on band vs album artist. I've learned a lot. I really feel that they need to have an option to accept the band tag as such a high percent of the customers they are going to get will come from the Itunes world and I really don't think that they are going to want to explain to everyone of them how to switch their tags around to work properly. A lot of people will just accept it and complain and cause a bad word of mouth about the Squeezebox. It's the kind of simple stuff that can lose a company a lot of business without ever knowing why. Right or wrong you need to make things work for your largest base of customers. I think that they can do this without compromising the power users, but they need to do it now! Again my apology Phil and thanks. -- Nonreality *-If the rule you followed brought you to this, what good is the rule.-* ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Nonreality's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15723 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=46093 _______________________________________________ discuss mailing list [email protected] http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
