i want to thank you again for your other post in the other thread. erland;299582 Wrote: > The current cost of SqueezeCenter is zero as far as I know, so it can't > get much cheaper, but I suppose you are talking about the whole system > including the SqueezeBox hardware.
actually, that works against them! :) the "free" part is the part that needs fixed and is the only part they can try ahead of time. i assert that if they get a bad "out of box" experience, (meaning, it acts unexpectedly), they will ditch it there and then. thats what i really don't want to see happen. erland;299574 Wrote: > I think the problem is that it will result in extra options and more > configuration parameters which gets the whole system even more > complicated to use than today. More options also results in a support > nightmare for Logitech since it makes the handling of end users problem > a lot more complex when there are a lot of variations. So even though > correct default values could make it simple for end users it causes > problem for the Logitech support team that needs to handle the users > that actually use the advanced configuration of the automatic detection > logic. there's a difference between needed options and un-necessary options. i would contend this is in fact, needed. but setting aside that argument for a moment, what about the support problems and threads the current broken system generates? and more importantly, what about the abortions, rather than adoptions, the current broken system causes? b/c thats how i see it. forcing joe average user to go to the slimserver university of tagging to figure out how to overcome its broken VA logic is not a good design. i think its possible to give a sensible out of box solution that keeps them out of the options altogether. turn TPE1 differentiation logic off. let SC7 search for terms in the tags to indicate comps. have "Various Artists" filled in already. allow them to edit it and add or remove more via webUI. erland;299574 Wrote: > I'm not against more options myself, which I think all the configuration > options in my plugins shows, but I can understand why Logitech has tried > to limit the number of configurable options available. absolutely, but some are necessary. erland;299574 Wrote: > However, it should be fairly simple if we limit the options to a single > checkbox that enabled/disabled the current automatic logic. If disabled > it would only detect albums with COMPILATION tags as compilations and > the rest would be considered to be non compilation albums. If enabled > it would use the current automatic logic that works for some people and > doesn't work for other people. right, thats an important first step. allow users to turn it off, (and i would say, have off by default) but you need a second step. you need to have something to replace it thats better (although also optional). specifically, my "VA terms" suggestion. the reason you need it is for users that won't have comp tags, and won't want to add them or learn anything about it. and i can't blame them, b/c their exp up to that point of other apps will be their music was handled properly. so they will need a method, thats fullproof, to allow them to get their comps annotated as comps in the db. erland;299574 Wrote: > The default value after installation could be that this option is > disabled, so the user explicit have to select to use the current > automatic logic. we are singing the same tune. :) erland;299574 Wrote: > A solution like this would be fairly simple to implement is doesn't > result in a lot of extra complex configuration parameters that needs to > be handled in the code and in the user interface. right, and it is needed, but it is only HALF the solution. (although for now i'll take what i can get). -- MrSinatra www.LION-Radio.org Using: Squeezebox2 (primary) / SBR (secondary) / SBC - w/SC 7.0.1beta - Win XP Pro SP2 - 3.2ghz / 2gig ram - D-Link DIR-655 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ MrSinatra's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2336 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=47297 _______________________________________________ discuss mailing list [email protected] http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
