On Tue, 8 Jul 2008 08:53:14 -0700, "tamanaco"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> 
> peter;318130 Wrote: 
> > What's the average income in NY again?
> > In Holland it's around 30,000 EUR, and we pay around 40% income taxes 
> > from that.
> > And then there's VAT and lots of car and fuel taxes too.
> > Don't worry, you lot still come out on top.
> > 
> > Regards,
> > Peter
> 
> I hate to be off topic again... but I can't keep myself from
> responding.
> 
> This is the big myth... Although we pay less taxes out of our pay
> checks we end up paying a lot more for Education and Health Care than
> the folks in Holland. It costs upwards of 20K a year if you want to
> send your kid to a decent collegue. How much do you pay in Holland? My
> wife and I pay about $1,500 a month for health care coverage. How much
> do you pay in Holland? In the US most folks think that these costs are
> not taxes... they believe that  keeping the money gives them choice.
> But in the end with entities like HMOs and pharmaceutical companies
> that have not incentive other than making a profit we end up paying an
> inflated cost for health care and medicines. I know, I know... people
> in Europe would be outraged if they had a middle man between their
> doctors and their care... but here in the US is a different story. Some
> folks think that Universal Health Care is a bad thing because they
> believe that the goverment will mismanage it. But they don't think in
> the same way about Social Security.
> 
> Well, let me stop... I guess my economic situtation won't get me
> Controller at 40% off.

I forget a few things myself, including health care. But let's agree
that it's hard to compare. Judging from the houses Americans live in
(only the happy few can afford detached houses here) and the cars you
drive I still figure the advantage is on your side of the ocean. 

Thankfully I was able to afford my 40% off controller anyway ;)
I just got a message it will be delivered tomorrow.

Regards,
Peter
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