On 02/06/2016 04:10 AM, Jason Harrer wrote: > Being one who myself forgets things some times and at other times needs > to remind others of details of conversations at work, I find it very > helpful to have a bullet point summary list of the conversations that > were had, what multiple options came up, and what the ultimate decision > was. That way, when someone later comes along and says "Why don't we do > X?", I can look at the notes and go, "We talked about X as a > possibility. Here's why we chose not to do X..." (Other than it being > illegal. Sorry, I needed a joke @ 6am...) > > I strongly recommend we keep a bit more detailed record of meeting > minutes in the future. Being that I'm usually working and am forced to > multitask, I can't offer to take on the recording role to do this, so > I'm leaving it as a recommendation, but a strongly encouraged one. >
I agree strongly with Jason. Don't throw away useful notes about discussion just for concision. We can have summary. It's nice to actually keep the full records. Of course, public institutions like congress actually keep complete transcripts even… > On Sat, Feb 6, 2016 at 12:46 AM, Aaron Wolf <aa...@snowdrift.coop > <mailto:aa...@snowdrift.coop>> wrote: > > On 02/01/2016 04:40 PM, Bryan Richter wrote: > > On Mon, Feb 01, 2016 at 04:26:01PM -0800, Aaron Wolf wrote: > >> On 02/01/2016 03:36 PM, Bryan Richter wrote: > >>> Thanks to setting up OpenProject, we now have a perfectly reasonable > >>> place to record minutes for meetings. Here is what I came up > with for > >>> today's meeting: > >>> > >>> http://shovel.snowdrift.coop/meetings/2 > >>> > >>> Any feedback on minutes format would be appreciated. Too terse? > >>> > >>> p.s. to Aaron, Jason, and any other OpenProject admins: I went to > >>> http://shovel.snowdrift.coop/admin/roles to allow the 'Anonymous' > >>> role to view meetings. Without doing so, one would have to log in to > >>> view meetings. > >>> > >> > >> Thanks Bryan! The Decisions and Next Steps sections are superb, > but they > >> should be *alongside* actual minutes that summarize the course of the > >> discussion (not all the things said, but a brief overview of how the > >> meeting went). Anyway, it's all a work in progress building these > skills > >> and we'll continue to document and plan better. > > > > For what it's worth, I was following guidelines listed at the > > Wikipedia article, which states, "Unless the organization's rules > > require it, a summary of the discussions in a meeting is neither > > necessary nor appropriate." The source for this is "Robert's Rules of > > Order Newly Revised" (RONR), which was basically treated as gospel on > > all these pages: > > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minutes > > > http://www.wildapricot.com/articles/how-to-write-effective-meeting-minutes > > http://nancysylvester.com/docs/Resources/articles/meeting_minutes.html > > > > Do you know of another school of thought that would contradict this > > one? If so, what purpose does the summary serve in that formulation? > > > > Incidentally, I did summarize two of the sort-of-off-topic discussions > > that happened, and I plan on sharing those to the relevant parties. > > > > Agreed on progress. :) I hope we can continue to identify and fill > > roles to keep things rolling smoothly. > > > > Re: meeting minutes, what I can say is this: > > Robert's Rules is well-intentioned but horrid generally. There's good > arguments that Robert's Rules actually *causes* a huge amount of the > problems in our government etc. so I'm hesitant to accept its gospel > since it is so misguided in other ways. It directly leads to > dysfunctional organizations and bitter partisanship… > > That doesn't mean it has bad ideas about meeting minutes. But we should > check with co-op experts who understand how bad R'sRs is and see what > they say about meeting minutes… > > _______________________________________________ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss@lists.snowdrift.coop <mailto:Discuss@lists.snowdrift.coop> > https://lists.snowdrift.coop/mailman/listinfo/discuss > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss@lists.snowdrift.coop > https://lists.snowdrift.coop/mailman/listinfo/discuss > _______________________________________________ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.snowdrift.coop https://lists.snowdrift.coop/mailman/listinfo/discuss
