We spend about 50 contact hours teaching our undergraduates the basics of R. 
Even that is not enough. It has been said that you need 100 hours to reach 
competency, and 1000 hours to master a subject. And the next stage is 10,000 
hours to be an expert..

How much time has he invested in actually learning those skills? I was totting 
up the time we spend teaching X versus the amount of complaints we get that the 
students don't know X. There is a strong inverse correlation. Folk want a cheap 
easy fix and have been promised that with computers. It does exist but it has 
to be earned. You don't get cheap and easy for free.

Dr David Martin
Lecturer in Bioinformatics
College of Life Sciences
University of Dundee


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Subject: Re: [Discuss] RajLab: From reproducibility to over-reproducibility

Hi all and thanks for the many responses.

My feeling reading this post was about tools (partly echoing Greg): 'we' know 
'all of us' should use the appropriate tool, e.g. version control (is that what 
you call the moral high-ground?). But for the novice, these tools/methods have 
steep learning curves, thus high upfront time investment, and no immediate 
benefit (!!!). There is a burden on 'us' to convince 'others' of the need to 
invest time to adopt these tools.

I am not sure whether more convincing (how? Research-based evidence?) or 
training is the answer, versus much easier to learn and use tools.

   Lex
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