Hi all, [ not aimed at anyone in particular, just replying to Brian since it's the latest e-mail in my inbox ]
I think we're diverging from useful topics here and headed towards disagreement and argumentation without data ;). Can we take a step back from this discussion for a bit, please? best, --titus On Mon, Apr 04, 2016 at 09:33:42AM -0400, Brian Stucky wrote: > > Most enterprises don't use Python for web development and I don't what > developers use. > > You might be correct that "most enterprises" don't use Python for web > development; I don't know. But I do know that Python is widely used in > enterprise web development, including by some of the biggest players. > See, e.g., Instagram, Mozilla, Google, Open Stack... > > -Brian > > > > On 04/03/2016 02:14 PM, Alfred Essa wrote: >> Let me clarify. I do mean to suggest that "developers" use Jupyter >> environment, including Notebook, for developing production quality >> Python code. Most enterprises don't use Python for web development and >> I don't what developers use. I do know that *researchers* in >> scientific computing and data science who use Python use Jupyter >> extensively, not just for "tutorials" and "demos". I don't have data >> on this. It's anecdote. The IDE for researchers using R is, of course, >> R Studio. >> >> Apache Zepellin and notebook environment is also worth looking at >> because of its Spark integration. >> >> https://zeppelin.incubaftor.apache.org/ >> <https://zeppelin.incubator.apache.org/> >> >> On Sun, Apr 3, 2016 at 2:04 PM, Matthew Brett <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> >> On Sun, Apr 3, 2016 at 10:46 AM, Matthew Gidden >> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> > Hi all, >> > >> > I agree. I spend probably 70% of my time in notebooks. However, the >> > distinction is between "initial coding" vs. "coding". In my specific >> > environment (which I do not claim is authoritative or >> representative), I >> > have found many users stay in the IDE/notebook environment. >> >> I've seen this too. >> >> I'd be very interested if there is any data about the effect this has >> on errors in the resulting analysis, and code quality. >> >> The notebook is an excellent tool for writing tutorials and demos, but >> I have almost stopped using it for my work (which is a combination of >> development, teaching and research). I found the notebook GUI was a >> serious barrier to stepping back and thinking hard about the problem. >> It encouraged me to play with things until they worked, which is a >> temptation I have to work very hard to avoid. >> >> Best, >> >> Matthew >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Discuss mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.software-carpentry.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss_lists.software-carpentry.org > > _______________________________________________ > Discuss mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.software-carpentry.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss_lists.software-carpentry.org -- C. Titus Brown, [email protected] _______________________________________________ Discuss mailing list [email protected] http://lists.software-carpentry.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss_lists.software-carpentry.org
