Hi all,

a quick comment: old versions of firefox are well handled and maintained (and called ESR), so we are safe for some time (but participants will have to download and unzip an additional version.

(another formulation, from the issue)

When Firefox 57 rolls out, people that need a supported browser but don't want to lose access to SQLite Manager can probably use Firefox ESR (Extended Support Release):

https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/organizations/all/


Cheers,
Rémi


On 14/11/2017 18:36, Amy E. Hodge wrote:

Great. Thanks, Karen.

Kevin, my concern is that I often come across learners that don’t have Firefox installed who might have trouble locating a compatible version for the SQL lesson, or who use Firefox and won’t know that they shouldn’t upgrade and overwrite the version they have, because they don’t know they’ll sign up for this workshop next week/month/whatever.

~ Amy

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*From: *Karen Cranston <[email protected]>
*Date: *Tuesday, November 14, 2017 at 9:21 AM
*To: *"Vilbig, Kevin P" <[email protected]>
*Cc: *François Michonneau <[email protected]>, "Amy E. Hodge" <[email protected]>, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
*Subject: *Re: [Discuss] FW: Welcome to the new Firefox

Thanks, Amy! I've created an issue in the repo with suggestions for short term (updating setup instructions) and long term (finding alternatives) solutions.

https://github.com/datacarpentry/sql-ecology-lesson/issues/199

On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 12:14 PM Vilbig, Kevin P <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    You can also continue using an older version of Firefox. There is
    no necessary reason to upgrade immediately.

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    *From:*Discuss <[email protected]
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    of François Michonneau <[email protected]
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    Hi Amy,

    That's a good point. It's going to be interesting to monitor
    what's going to happen in the next few weeks. It looks like many
    addons (including some very popular commercial ones) are
    incompatible with this new version of firefox. I assume that the
    developers of these addons are going to catch up and make them
    compatible. However, it's not clear if it's also going to be the
    case for SQLite manager and this thread doesn't seem too
    promising: https://github.com/lazierthanthou/sqlite-manager/issues/75

      It might be a good idea to explore alternatives. I saw that
    plotly recently released a cross-platform database interface named
    Falcon: https://plot.ly/database-connectors/ (Linux version
    available from:
    https://github.com/plotly/falcon-sql-client/releases/latest).
    sqlitebrowser (https://github.com/sqlitebrowser/sqlitebrowser) is
    actively maintained and also cross-platform.

    cheers,

      -- François

    On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 11:46 AM, Amy E. Hodge
    <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

        I just downloaded the new Firefox Quantum and discovered that
        SQLite Manager no longer works – it’s automatically disabled
        and only gives me the option to Remove it.

        Hopefully the older version we still be available for a while,
        but we may need to make a note in the lesson materials about
        the version people need to use for the SQL lessons. Right now
        I’m seeing that they haven’t made it easy to access downloads
        for older versions. I’m not finding it.

        ~ Amy

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