Dave Close wrote:
> I know you guys are discussing servers with hard disks, but what are
> your thoughts about systems without disks, so-called embedded systems?
> Embedded these days doesn't mean small and probably does mean they are
> running a general purpose OS like Linux. I use some with a couple of GB
> of RAM, but their only "disk" is flash. Writing to flash is not only
> slow but also invokes the wear-leveling algorithms and, ultimately,
> reaches the point where the flash is worn out. One tries to avoid any
> writes. The smaller the "swap" space, the more concentrated the writes.
> So, if you say that a system without any "swap" misbehaves, how does a
> system like this survive?
>   
I'm not sure why you say that flash is slow. Any recent flash, say the 
last 2 years, is MUCH faster than spinning media in all dimensions. For 
example, try putting a ZIL (ZFS intent log) on flash media and watch 
your NFS meta-data operations go from moribund to zoom. Wear levelling 
is a concern but is becoming less of one over time. Sun is partnering 
with a vendor on flash with 1 million write cycles. If you have that and 
a 30 or 80GB flash, it would last years even under relatively hostile 
circumstances.

Today, I wouldn't put swap on a flash drive (depending on the app), but 
I might in a year.

Slow is yesteryear's flash.
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