[email protected] wrote:
> On Sat, 12 Sep 2009, Doug Hughes wrote:
>> yes: http://blogs.sun.com/ahl/entry/fishworks_launch
>> But, remember, this is NOT a normal flash drive.
>
> I had misunderstood you. I thought you were talking about flash 
> drives, not storage arrays (storage arrays do frequently use DRAM, 
> they have a full processor on board and large battery packs)
>
Right, I mixed the logzilla in there as an additional item of interest 
in technology.

>>>> zfs normally stripes the intent log across the data disks unless 
>>>> you tell it otherwise (e.g. 46 disks on a Sun x45000 or x4540)
>>>> You can also put the ZIL on a dedicated high speed rotating drive. 
>>>> The x25E outperforms both except in the case where you want high 
>>>> sequential throughput.
>>>
>>> well given that the X25E is faster than the rotating storage I would 
>>> expect it to be a win there as well.
>>>
>>> but the point I was trying to make was that I suspect most of the 
>>> benifit is in the step from a striped intent log to an intent log on 
>>> dedicated media, with the move from there to an X25 helping, but not 
>>> as much.
>>>
>> I am trying to correct this misconception. I assure you it's much 
>> bigger than that for 7200 RPM SATA to X-25E. The latency is lower and 
>> throughput is higher. But, don't believe me. Check out the references 
>> I posted earlier.
>> Even the consumer X25-M sata SSD is .1msec vs 4.2msec on a 7200RPM 
>> SATA enterprise drive. for the X25-E it is .085msec for for 15KRPM 
>> SCSI it is 3.9msec. (The fusion IO is .05 msec)
>>
>> The raw sequential throughput of the X-25E is close to 3000MB/sec on 
>> a 64KB record whereas your 9200 RPM drive will be around 100 and the 
>> 15KRPM drive will be aroudn 227. (it doubles on smaller block sizes)
>
> I don't doubt your performance number (not much anyway, the X25E is 
> limited to the speed of sata, so a theoretical limit of 300MB/sec, not 
> 3000MB/sec ;-), but the huge win (just like it is with databases) is 
> when you move your intent log off of drives that are seeking all over 
> the place to a drive where you don't have to seek much, if at all, 
> letting your writes _be_ sequential in the first place
>
there was actually not that big of an improvement going from striped 
across 46 drives to dedicated on 1. There is a huge difference going to 
ZIL on flash, but again, mainly in NFS acceleration. Local ZFS does 
decently at buffering up writes in memory and committing them in bulk.

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