This problem did not start for me with the latest upgrade. It's been
present for quite some time. Gee, the difference between you and me
is that you have dial up and I have cable. I wonder if we look at
other differences, we can come up with what affects its working. I'm
running an powerbook g4 867 with a gig of ram and an 30gb hd.
--
Jonnie Apple Seed
With his:
Hands-On Technolog(eye)s
On Jan 5, 2006, at 11:52 AM, Tom McMahan wrote:
Hi Dave and all, I've been trying the command K in mail. I am not
running the upgrade 10.43 that came out recently though. VO comes up
with dialog for mine, and I can either use VO keys or tab to get
effectively to the "ok" and once it is done, I am back in the inbox
or whatever box I was in before. For some reason it's working on my
machine.
As for the OS 10.43 upgrade, I have atempted to get it via software
upgrade function, but being on dial up here it takes for ever and
eventually I looze conection, and it will have to start all over,
doesn't save any of it otherwise I would probably have it by now.
The most I've gotten of it is about one third of it and then lost
conection. So would have to start from square one again. Safarie
however, if download is interupted will resume at any time later from
where it left off and complete the download. Is there any way to get
the system upgrade that's in the Apple mennue to do the same thing?
Also if anyone has an answer to this question you might wish to
change the subject line to reflect so for future arkiving. It's just
something that came to mind.
On Jan 5, 2006, at 5:53 AM, David Poehlman wrote:
It's a silent dialog for vo, but in system prefs, you can set
alerts under text to speech which you will find in speech incase
you haven't yet seen it.
It's command-k which triggers this and while it works as a
connection command in finder, in mail, it definitely triggers the
dialog to empty deleted items.
--
Jonnie Apple Seed
With his:
Hands-On Technolog(eye)s
On Jan 4, 2006, at 8:46 PM, Tom McMahan wrote:
Is it a silent dialog as well? Just anouncing "window or Dialog?"
Sounds like you're basically dong the same thing I'm doing then but
I'm not having to shut the in box. What if you hold the deleet key
down just a little longer and see if it jumps through what it's
been doing. I've noticed a few times I've had to hold what ever
function a little longer to get the machine to execute.
Sounds like something to look forward to.
On Jan 4, 2006, at 5:34 AM, David Poehlman wrote:
What I do,
I just tab to the message list, press delete on a message whether
opened or closed to put it in the trash. I then empty the trash
as you describe, but there is a key for this that sometimes does
not work which is what we are trying to figure out the problem
with. I am still having the problem even when I close the mail
window.
--
Jonnie Apple Seed
With his:
Hands-On Technolog(eye)s
On Jan 3, 2006, at 6:35 AM, Tom McMahan wrote:
Why are you having to close your in box window?
If you interact into where it says "messsages" one VO combo arrow
up from wher VO says Splitter, you can just use arrow keys up or
down without holding down VO keys. It anounces the row number,
message status and header info. If you have a message there that
you don't want to hear in the first place, such as some sort of
spam, just hit the deleet key. It automatically dumps it into your
trash can. Same with moving the message to a created mailbox, can
just leave it closed Controlf2 which puts you into mennues, to
message section by moving with right arrow, then down arrow to
"move message to:" one right arrow into the sub menue arrow down
to whatever box you want to save into then space bar. If the
message was closed when you moved it you will wind back up in the
"messages" interaction near where you were. If the message was
open when you move it you will go to the oposite end of the rows
though.
Then of course when you want to empty trash, go to that box, click
"select all" in the mennue or do the keyboard command and
Controldeleet and they're all gone. But that can be done with any
mail box as long as you have VO interacting into the Messages table.
I have noticed though if the trash can gets to full, or my junk
mail box gets to full Mail will slow down.
On Jan 3, 2006, at 3:32 AM, Scott Howell wrote:
Tim, I was experiencing this and after one updating session
(software update) the problem seemed to goaway. I'm not sure, but
perhaps its back. I say this because I after a while use VO-keys
and the arrows to move about in the mail app and it says alert,
but yet I can't find any alert on the screen. I suspect VO is
remembering the alert from mail about deleting mail. I'll try
your suggestion, but think I'll send it in as a bug also.
tnx
Scott
On Jan 2, 2006, at 6:29 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote:
A while back, I believe it was David who was experiencing
problems with using cmd+k to empty the deleted items in Mail. I
would suspect that this is fairly common for others as well.
What happens is VO seems to lose its ability to clear the dialog
and thus says something to the effect of "Dialog for blah blah
blah" at nausium with no apparent way to get out of it without
quitting Mail or VO. One other method of getting around this
I've found was to press cmd+w which will close the active window
and then simply pressing cmd+1 to re-open my InBox. Quick and
easy, my hands don't have to leave the home-row position.
Later...
Tim Kilburn
& Carter the Canine
Fort McMurray, AB Canada
