I am running a 3 year old Imac. I also haven't deviated much from
most of the default settings in VO. One difference we have is that
you are a lot more computer savithan I am. My needs at least at this
time are quite simple. Perhaps simple needs for simple mind.
But I have to admit I've learned a lot being on this list, for work
arounds. But I'm still in the quandry of trying to figure out why
your mail is acting that way. Of course you are more in the quandry,
but like many things involving Tiger and VO something will be figured
out.
On Jan 5, 2006, at 11:19 AM, David Poehlman wrote:
This problem did not start for me with the latest upgrade. It's
been present for quite some time. Gee, the difference between you
and me is that you have dial up and I have cable. I wonder if we
look at other differences, we can come up with what affects its
working. I'm running an powerbook g4 867 with a gig of ram and an
30gb hd.
--
Jonnie Apple Seed
With his:
Hands-On Technolog(eye)s
On Jan 5, 2006, at 11:52 AM, Tom McMahan wrote:
Hi Dave and all, I've been trying the command K in mail. I am not
running the upgrade 10.43 that came out recently though. VO comes
up with dialog for mine, and I can either use VO keys or tab to get
effectively to the "ok" and once it is done, I am back in the inbox
or whatever box I was in before. For some reason it's working on
my machine.
As for the OS 10.43 upgrade, I have atempted to get it via software
upgrade function, but being on dial up here it takes for ever and
eventually I looze conection, and it will have to start all over,
doesn't save any of it otherwise I would probably have it by now.
The most I've gotten of it is about one third of it and then lost
conection. So would have to start from square one again. Safarie
however, if download is interupted will resume at any time later
from where it left off and complete the download. Is there any way
to get the system upgrade that's in the Apple mennue to do the same
thing?
Also if anyone has an answer to this question you might wish to
change the subject line to reflect so for future arkiving. It's
just something that came to mind.
On Jan 5, 2006, at 5:53 AM, David Poehlman wrote:
It's a silent dialog for vo, but in system prefs, you can set
alerts under text to speech which you will find in speech incase
you haven't yet seen it.
It's command-k which triggers this and while it works as a
connection command in finder, in mail, it definitely triggers the
dialog to empty deleted items.
--
Jonnie Apple Seed
With his:
Hands-On Technolog(eye)s
On Jan 4, 2006, at 8:46 PM, Tom McMahan wrote:
Is it a silent dialog as well? Just anouncing "window or Dialog?"
Sounds like you're basically dong the same thing I'm doing then
but I'm not having to shut the in box. What if you hold the
deleet key down just a little longer and see if it jumps through
what it's been doing. I've noticed a few times I've had to hold
what ever function a little longer to get the machine to execute.
Sounds like something to look forward to.
On Jan 4, 2006, at 5:34 AM, David Poehlman wrote:
What I do,
I just tab to the message list, press delete on a message whether
opened or closed to put it in the trash. I then empty the trash
as you describe, but there is a key for this that sometimes does
not work which is what we are trying to figure out the problem
with. I am still having the problem even when I close the mail
window.
--
Jonnie Apple Seed
With his:
Hands-On Technolog(eye)s
On Jan 3, 2006, at 6:35 AM, Tom McMahan wrote:
Why are you having to close your in box window?
If you interact into where it says "messsages" one VO combo arrow
up from wher VO says Splitter, you can just use arrow keys up or
down without holding down VO keys. It anounces the row number,
message status and header info. If you have a message there that
you don't want to hear in the first place, such as some sort of
spam, just hit the deleet key. It automatically dumps it into
your trash can. Same with moving the message to a created
mailbox, can just leave it closed Controlf2 which puts you into
mennues, to message section by moving with right arrow, then down
arrow to "move message to:" one right arrow into the sub menue
arrow down to whatever box you want to save into then space bar.
If the message was closed when you moved it you will wind back up
in the "messages" interaction near where you were. If the
message was open when you move it you will go to the oposite end
of the rows though.
Then of course when you want to empty trash, go to that box,
click "select all" in the mennue or do the keyboard command and
Controldeleet and they're all gone. But that can be done with
any mail box as long as you have VO interacting into the Messages
table.
I have noticed though if the trash can gets to full, or my junk
mail box gets to full Mail will slow down.
On Jan 3, 2006, at 3:32 AM, Scott Howell wrote:
Tim, I was experiencing this and after one updating session
(software update) the problem seemed to goaway. I'm not sure,
but perhaps its back. I say this because I after a while use VO-
keys and the arrows to move about in the mail app and it says
alert, but yet I can't find any alert on the screen. I suspect
VO is remembering the alert from mail about deleting mail. I'll
try your suggestion, but think I'll send it in as a bug also.
tnx
Scott
On Jan 2, 2006, at 6:29 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote:
A while back, I believe it was David who was experiencing
problems with using cmd+k to empty the deleted items in Mail.
I would suspect that this is fairly common for others as well.
What happens is VO seems to lose its ability to clear the
dialog and thus says something to the effect of "Dialog for
blah blah blah" at nausium with no apparent way to get out of
it without quitting Mail or VO. One other method of getting
around this I've found was to press cmd+w which will close the
active window and then simply pressing cmd+1 to re-open my
InBox. Quick and easy, my hands don't have to leave the home-
row position.
Later...
Tim Kilburn
& Carter the Canine
Fort McMurray, AB Canada
