Thanks Joe, I will be interested in this and shall check it out. I
guess there's tools for the Mac that will let me do this either from
in the gui or the commandline. I imagine from the gui is Xcode/Xtools
so that probably isn't going to be then an option.
tnx
Scott
On Mar 12, 2006, at 5:48 PM, Kafka's Daytime wrote:
Hi Scott,
You might try Objective C. It's a good starter language since it's
a superset of C. Smaller "vocabulary" and less of the complicated
stuff you find in C - and you can reach down into C when you need
more low level power. You don't need XCode (which we know not to be
very VO friendly) to start with Objective C. You can work in
Terminal. Good starter book is Stephen Kochan's book "Programming
with Objective C" (may be an electronic version around). Apple also
has an Objective C primer and language guide in their developer
docs. Once you have Objective C down you can move on to using Cocoa
with Objective C (Cocoa's "native" language).
Joe
On Mar 12, 2006, at 6:10 AM, Scott Howell wrote:
Thanks Joe and your more than welcome. If there's some strange,
I'll probably find it. grin
Yeah just call me the hacker. See this is why I want to learn to
code, I think when I was yonger I didn't really think I'd enjoy
it, but now I think if I can master the syntax, I could really get
into developing/porting software. I am joining Book Share so
imagine there will be some good boooks on learning C/C++ and then
I can start figuring out Coco and the like.
Scott
On Mar 11, 2006, at 9:54 PM, Kafka's Daytime wrote:
Scott. You rule. So, it appears VO takes precedence and cuts out
the katie speech if VO and katie set to different voices. Blah.
That's not a show stopper I guess but not very elegant either.
Won't be an issue when we rely completely on VO to provide
katieplayer accessibility.
As for the speech engines, yes, Apple could do the same in terms
of speed range...I suppose they decided to reign the adjustments
in a bit. I hadn't noticed the difference in speed ranges
provided by VO vs. katieplayer.
So, again, thanks for the troubleshooting/testing/problem-solving!
Joe
On Mar 11, 2006, at 9:07 PM, Scott Howell wrote:
Joe, yes in fact it does matter. I did a few tests.
1. I set Katieplayer to use Fred which is the default voice I
use for VO.
2. Went into the sleep settings menu and it worked perfectly,
but yes Katieplayer's voice and VO's voice must be set the same.
It doesn't seem to matter if you have other voices set for other
parts of VO or the system etc.
3. I turned VO off and set a different voice in KatiePlayer and
it worked just fine.
4. I set Katieplayer's voice differently from VO while it was
off and as soon as I turned VO on, it killed the speech in the
sleep options menu.
5. Turning VO back off had no affect and speech was gone while
in the sleep options menu and so had to quit the program
I did notice you guys get more speed from the voices than VO
does itself. WOuld be nice if Apple would allow for a greater
range in speed.
So that solves teh mystery.
tnx
Scott
On Mar 11, 2006, at 6:58 PM, Kafka's Daytime wrote:
